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Way too much money for Nene, especially after a major injury. WTF were they thinking? Worst contract I've heard about yet this offseason.
just tell Duncan to stay out of the way and then Nene will play a full season once in a while
Way too much money for Nene, especially after a major injury. WTF were they thinking? Worst contract I've heard about yet this offseason.
We acually bid against another team back then -- and ours was the lower offer.its no suprise. Im sure some of you guys thought Rasho was a good signing at the time
Again I point to the shining example of Donald T Sterling to let the market decide the value of your free agents.
Even with the way things turned out, it was still the right signing at the time. The Spurs had to have a center- Duncan wanted one. It was still a much better option than Kandi--who sucks-- and Brad Miller who got a much larger contract and can't defend at all. Rasho came here for less than his market value- to the tune of the $10M he left in Minneosta. See what it costs the Spurs to find another big man this summer-- that is if they find one at all.its no suprise. Im sure some of you guys thought Rasho was a good signing at the time
Um...I'd rather pay Rasho 10 million per season than Nene.
IF this guys future is as good as the last 6 years of Grant Hill's career, I'll be surprised.
I'm sorry but we can't salvage or explain that deal both deals suck but I'd much rather Nene and his deal than Rasho and the one we signed him to.
Put down the pipe.
About the only knee injury more severe than what Nene had is getting your knee cap blown off with a shot gun.
He suffered a torn medial collateral, a torn anterior cruciate, and a torn meniscus...any one of those by themselves can be a career ender, and always a career alterer...all 3 of them? Un no...I am not the one on crack. The Nuggets brand spanking new GM is.
A torn meniscus is the slightest of the 3, the only one players usually bounce back from effectively, and one of those by themselves pretty much ruined Chris Webber.
It'll be 3 years before Nene gets back to being anywhere close as good as he was before that injury...and he wasn't that great to begin with.
Did you read what Nene's biggest limitation was? He can't jump a lick...he'll be worse, his lateral movement is going to be ed, and he won't be anywhere near as quick as he was.
Rasho's numbers are better period...and Rasho hasn't had a destroyed knee.
This will go down as one of the worst deals and stupidest contracts in NBA history..book it.
thats what you get for getting undercut by Duncanj/k
I admit I didn't know his knee injury was that bad Whott, so I'll give you that. Also I said both deals suck and are terrible but not to be a but you didn't do you homework and are embarassing yourself so just stop. One of the lost factors in the Nuggets resurgence when they got Anthony was the play of Nene who was 2nd in the NBA that season to KG (!) in plus/minus. His rookie numbers in plus minus were low because his team was terrible but the last 2 years 2003-2004 & 2004-05 he has been sterling. He shoots a very high percentage and is a good finisher because of his strength(you didnt think Shaq was a good finisher because of high verrtical did you?). He is a good post defender because of his strength and quickness. He's just a much better player, worthy of a starting job and like 5 year 35 million dollar deal, if healthy.
That's hilarious I posted that report man, so yeah i read it. He had great plus minus numbers then when he couldn't jump so now when he can't jump they should still be exceptional. Besides micro fracture is the knee surgery that ruins careers. The fact that he can't jump is made up far partly by his freakish 7'4 1/2" wingspan and his strength and physical play. Nene is quick and strong. Rasho can't jump either but is slow and as weak as any player in the league.
Nene is still going to be a monster, but its all based on the 'Potential' word which i hate coz it gets thrown around so much in the NBA.
The fans love Nene, the Nuggets needed to re-sign him and they did. The fans wont be ticked at management if he gets injured again, but they would have been ticked if the Nuggets didnt keep him.
Is this like exstatic not doing his homework, and you being wrong?but you didn't do you homework and are embarassing yourself so just stop
Way over-valued. Fegan does it again. Nugs will feel that one in a couple of years.
Hey I drafted Nene for my fantasy team last year...I am well aware of the potential he had...but he had not fufilled it yet, and had many drawbacks to his game.
Point there is...Nene wasn't worth 10 million per based on potential.
The true point I am making...
The point is...he destroyed his knee. D Stroyed IT.
The injury to Nene is that bad and is the primary reason for my stance. Torn anterior cruciate and medial collateral are bad as you can get.
And you judge Rasho too much by his Spurs career and Pop's hardassedness.
Don't get me wrong, Rasho lack motivation and agressiveness...but in terms of talent Rasho has quite a bit on both sides of the ball...he's got a good shot, he's got good length, and he is very ahtletic and very coordinated for a bigman....Rasho's problems are all in his head.
But yes..right now, after that injury, I would give Rasho 10 million per before I would give Nene that...it would be the better deal.
If his knee injury is that bad then it's really a terrible deal. Both deals sucked though so it's just a matter of degrees. I wish I was 7 feet tall.
thats from back in FebruaryReached via e-mail, Nene thanked Hess for his work and said of his rehab: "My goal has always been to get back on the court, at least practicing with the team, this season. I am working very hard to accomplish that goal. Once I am back on the practice court, we will see how I am from there."
Hess has worked with about 30 injured knees similar to what Nene experienced and said he has never seen a faster recovery. Nene spends between 90 minutes and three hours six days a week on rehabbing his leg, as well as the rest of his body.
In late December, the team measured the cir ference of his leg at 3, 6 and 9 inches above his kneecap and found the thigh had atrophied by 2 inches. Hess said he had a similar injury and it took him two years to get his leg muscles symmetrical again.
Hess couldnt believe that Nene had lost weight since opening night. He started the season at 269 with 11% body fat and was down to 264 with 9% body fat in February.
I am sure the Nuggets have taken his recovery into consideration when it came to the contract dealings. Im not saying i expect him to be 100% straight away but the reports from earlier in the year and now are very promising.
We will have to wait till November to see how he is in a game situation
Nene is looking great. He is getting into shape (down to around 260lbs which is about 25 lbs less than the offseason i think) and is healthy. His minutes have been increased and he is now starting
In February he is averaging 18.2ppg (57% fg)/ 8.2 rpg / 1.3 bpg
It was just a matter of time
If Nene pans out (which is looking very likely) I hope you guys find a way to deal K-Mart.Nene is looking great. He is getting into shape (down to around 260lbs which is about 25 lbs less than the offseason i think) and is healthy. His minutes have been increased and he is now starting
In February he is averaging 18.2ppg (57% fg)/ 8.2 rpg / 1.3 bpg
It was just a matter of time
So, for 10 days in a slow month for hoops, pre ASG, he ALMOST does enough to not make you hate the contract...in year one? Got it.Nene is looking great. He is getting into shape (down to around 260lbs which is about 25 lbs less than the offseason i think) and is healthy. His minutes have been increased and he is now starting
In February he is averaging 18.2ppg (57% fg)/ 8.2 rpg / 1.3 bpg
It was just a matter of time
wow it must be easy to play 100% in the NBA after missing an entire season with a torn ACL
Barring injury, this guy will only get better
Dont mind him. He is just pissed off because his Spurs are no longer the elite team they once were and that anyone in the West can beat them in a series now.wow it must be easy to play 100% in the NBA after missing an entire season with a torn ACL
Barring injury, this guy will only get better
Torn Meniscus isn't that bad. I know a guy that played a whole season on one, then had surgury in the offseason.
Nene didn't tear his MCL, he sprained it. If he tore both his ACL and MCL that would have been the end of his career on that night barring a miracle.
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