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    It's hard for me to imagine anyone trading for Scola this summer. Using your MLE for an undersized PF who has never played in the NBA isn't on any team's to do list.
    Reports say that Garbajosa will sign $12M/3 years contract.
    He is a PF, is older than Scola, is more undersized than Scola and Scola is a better player.

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    If the Wiz aren't doing anything else this summer, maybe we could trade Scola for someone like Peter John Ramos. He's still a project, but a huge one with mean streak. If I felt greedy I'd ask for Blatche.

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    Kryapa, as Sequ would say, blows.
    Blows? He averages 4.4 boards in 21 minutes, shoots 46% and 34% from downtown and can defend some, rumor has it.

    Folks, there are NO perfect long 3s available on our budget. There will be something lacking in anyone we get. You have to match the most needed criterion and hope the rest doesn't suck too bad. Kevin Garnett isn't coming.

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    Reports say that Garbajosa will sign $12M/3 years contract.
    He is a PF, is older than Scola, is more undersized than Scola and Scola is a better player.
    In my opinion the Spurs just have a very low opinion of Scola. The odds of getting a decent center with the MLE are very low. They should use it for a wing player then.

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    Reports say that Garbajosa will sign $12M/3 years contract.
    He is a PF, is older than Scola, is more undersized than Scola and Scola is a better player.
    Garbagoja is also a free agent. Luis Scola was a pick. Manu, and Scola for that matter, would have gotten big contracts if they were undrafted.

    Giving Scola $4M a year would make him the highest paid second round draft pick ever.

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    Garbagoja is also a free agent. Luis Scola was a pick. Manu, and Scola for that matter, would have gotten big contracts if they were undrafted.

    Giving Scola $4M a year would make him the highest paid second round draft pick ever.
    Why would he lower his demands next year? After the Spurs forced him play another year overseas.

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    Garbagoja is also a free agent. Luis Scola was a pick.
    I don't say Spurs will get a lot for him if they trade him but that some teams are ready to spend $4M/year for what you call "an undersized unproven PF".

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    Why would he lower his demands next year? After the Spurs forced him play another year overseas.
    Because he has no choice. It's either sign with the Spurs or play with Tau the rest of his career.

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    ^^If he sits out one year after his contract with Tau expires he is a free agent so he has leverage and at that point probably plenty of animosity.

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    The stupid thing is that if Scola wanted to come, he could borrow against the entire value of the contract, and make his buyout easily. Tau is being stupid, too. Next summer, they get nothing.

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    ^^If he sits out one year after his contract with Tau expires he is a free agent so he has leverage and at that point probably plenty of animosity.
    I don't think he'd sit out a year during his prime.

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    I don't say Spurs will get a lot for him if they trade him but that some teams are ready to spend $4M/year for what you call "an undersized unproven PF".
    1) Next year, they don't have to pay him enough for a buyout.
    2) He can score in the post. That is a redundancy for us, but a luxury for other teams.

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    The stupid thing is that if Scola wanted to come, he could borrow against the entire value of the contract, and make his buyout easily. Tau is being stupid, too. Next summer, they get nothing.
    Scola has still 2 years left on his contract.

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    Scola has still 2 years left on his contract.


    Are you kidding? It's always been reported that this was Scola's second to last year under contract.

    I guess Scola in 2008-09 then.

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    1) Next year, they don't have to pay him enough for a buyout.
    2) He can score in the post. That is a redundancy for us, but a luxury for other teams.
    1) Tau is BB team. They want to win les too. they rather have Scola who is their best players for one more year than a small buyout like $1M.

    2) Agree that's why I say "some teams".

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    I don't think he'd sit out a year during his prime.
    How many players in sports holdout or threaten to hold out to get their contracts renegotiated in sports? They don't get paid while they holdout yet every year tons do it.

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    How many players in sports holdout or threaten to hold out to get their contracts renegotiated in sports? They don't get paid while they holdout yet every year tons do it.
    And yet they all sign contracts and end up playing.

    There's a slight difference between skipping training camp and signing prior to the first game of the season and sitting out a whole ing year.

    Show me a pro who has sat out a year in recent memory that was any good.

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    Are you kidding? It's always been reported that this was Scola's second to last year under contract.

    I guess Scola in 2008-09 then.
    Scola is a free agent in July 2008. Tau has made him an offer : big salary raise + 3 years extension (until 2011).

    http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpu...K=808&h=060625

    Así las cosas, la única opción para el salto ahora a la NBA de Scola es que San Antonio intercambiara sus derechos con otro equipo. Pero, mientras, el Tau Vitoria no se duerme en los laureles y ya le ha presentado una megaoferta al ala-pívot cuyo actual contrato expira en el 2008. La misma pasaría por una ampliación del vínculo, como mínimo, hasta el 2011 lo que haría que el jugador decidiera olvidarse casi por completo de jugar en la liga profesional estadounidense. Diversas perspectivas en ese sueño que, en algún caso, puede quedarse en eso. Habrá que verlo.

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    And yet they all sign contracts and end up playing.

    There's a slight difference between skipping training camp and signing prior to the first game of the season and sitting out a whole ing year.

    Show me a pro who has sat out a year in recent memory that was any good.
    It nevers gets to that point because usually teams see that the player is serious after a while and negotiate.

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    How many players in sports holdout or threaten to hold out to get their contracts renegotiated in sports? They don't get paid while they holdout yet every year tons do it.
    But he'd actually have to go through with it .. not just threaten. And sit out an entire year just for the slight chance that he gets picked up by an NBA team the following year. He would probably rather just stay in Europe than do that.

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    Scola is a free agent in July 2008. Tau has made him an offer : big salary raise + 3 years extension (until 2011).

    http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpu...K=808&h=060625
    If Scola is thinking about signing that, the Spurs better trade him now. I'd take a Suns' second round pick if the alternative is nothing.

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    Scola is a free agent in July 2008. Tau has made him an offer : big salary raise + 3 years extension (until 2011).

    http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpu...K=808&h=060625
    Damn. I always thought he only had one year left on his current contract.

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    It nevers gets to that point because usually teams see that the player is serious after a while and negotiate.
    So why in the are you advocating the guy sitting out one year of prime salary earning in what is a limited time for a career just for the chance, not even a guarantee, of getting an NBA team worried enough about him to give him more than they think he's worth?

    It doesn't make any sense, and your argument about NFL players holding out for more money isn't a valid comparison.

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    If Scola is thinking about signing that, the Spurs better trade him now. I'd take a Suns' second round pick if the alternative is nothing.
    I think that's the kind of thing we're looking at, but the Suns aren't going to be that team.

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    But he'd actually have to go through with it .. not just threaten. And sit out an entire year just for the slight chance that he gets picked up by an NBA team the following year. He would probably rather just stay in Europe than do that.

    I could definitely see him accepting what the Spurs or some other team wants ($2-3 million) want to play in the NBA. I could also see him being very upset that the Spurs are saying this is what you get like it or not and basically forcing him to take whatever they decide to offer him. Then him saying wait Oberto gets 2.5 a year and Garbajosa 4 million a year? Screw this. Every player who ever holds out is threatening to sit out a year. Emmett sat out the first 2 games of '93 and many other players sit out until well into the season every year in all sports. Teams sign them because they believe they will.

    Look all I'm saying the idea that next year he's going to drop all his demands and take $2 million a year is questionable at best and I don't know why everybody thinks that.

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