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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Gambrinus owns Spoetzel Brewing, not Miller. Maybe you're thinking of Celis being bought out by Miller?
    sorry, i was totally off base there. shiner did change the recipe for shiner bock somewhere around 1999, it was enough to make me quit drinking it. i was never a huge fan of celis, a lot of people here in austin are partial to celis white but i don't especially care for it. i need to go to the ginger man again soon and get my fix of stuff i can't get on tap elsewhere in town...

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    I'll forgive you on the Gambrinus thing if you promise not to drink any Michelob Ultra Light.

    When Pierre Celis first opened his brewery, the beer was excellent. My favorites where the Grand Cru, the Pale Bock, the Dubbel and the White (in that order). But Miller bought them and moved the brewing operations and it went downhill from there. Distribution was spotty and the taste wasn't the same. From what I heard, Miller gave up brewing Celis and now Michigan Brewing (could be owned by Miller or contracted to brew it though) makes it. It a lot better but they still have the same distribution problems.

    For people who don't like heavy beers, don't want a heavy buzz or don't like the taste of beer at all, Michelob Ultra Light has it's place. The very light body makes it more palatable and for people that are calorie conscious, it is one of the lowest calorie beers.

    It has especially good value if you're drinking it on a very hot day or plan on drinking for an extended period of time. You normally don't want to start pounding Sierra Nevadas if you're going to be working in the yard all day or spending several hours drinking out by the river especially when the Texas heat will encourage you to pick up the drinking pace.

    It's also good when you want to stop off some place after work with friends/co-worker to have a couple of quick beers but don't want a noticeable buzz then you drive home or get home to the significant other.

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    Is this that low-carb beer? What a pussy concept- low carb beer. If you are that concerned about carbs the last thing you should be doing is drinking.

    I bet people drink a load thinking 'ohh, it's low in carbs' then they get drunk and go pig out on pancakes at IHOP, thus eliminating any advantage they had from consuming a low-carb beer in the first place.


    Melmart, I think you hit it on the head. Impulsive people will find a way to satisfy their carb cravings no matter what...especially if their judgment gets impaired by intoxication.

    Plus there's that old problem about excessive alcohol diminishing the effectiveness of one's immune system while intoxicated and long term health hazards posed to one's liver.

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Melmart, I think you hit it on the head. Impulsive people will find a way to satisfy their carb cravings no matter what...especially if their judgment gets impaired by intoxication.

    Plus there's that old problem about excessive alcohol diminishing the effectiveness of one's immune system while intoxicated and long term health hazards posed to one's liver.
    i used to work at the alamo drafthouse village here in austin. a good example is a typical harry knowles order:
    queso
    wings, jalepeno poppers
    pizza
    diet coke.

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