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Bone to pick: Hitler feigned Christianity for a while, but the Third Reich is best characterized as Nordic Pagan.
is christianity peaceful?
Bone to pick: Hitler feigned Christianity for a while, but the Third Reich is best characterized as Nordic Pagan.
Just that one bone?
Violent Christians must ignore the tenets of Christianity in order to be so. Not the case for Muslims.
That's the bone I'd pick.
According to Paul, governments are God's agents of judgment by the sword. One might claim that this should only apply to civil justice based upon the context, but this is not clear. So one can argue somewhat convincingly in favor of Biblically-sponsored state violence. This is why Augustine had to go so far as to flesh out the just war doctrine.
I can't claim to be an expert in Muslim theology, though I've tried to learn some of it in the past five years, but if all the peaceful-looking Muslims I know are part of this grand conspiracy of deception, then I must say that I am really impressed by their discipline to keep up the facade for so long.
I also am impressed by the ability of Muslims to propagate such a wide variety of theological interpretations of the Qu'ran, just as Christianity has done with the Bible, while in reality having just that singular viewpoint of waiting for the right time to pounce and slay the infidel. It's remarkable that they could could in unanimity collaborate on such a sophisticated ruse while simultaneously being a basket case in so many other areas.
Bro.....................there is violence in every religous text I.E the Bible:
when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus
(2 Thess 1:7-8).
[Christ will destroy] every ruler and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet (1 Cor 15:25).
But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them -- bring them here and slaughter them in my presence
(Luke 19:27).
only hold fast to what you have until I come. To everyone who conquers (temptation to apostasy) and continues to do my works to the end, I will give authority over the nations; to rule them with an iron rod, as when clay pots are shattered -- even as I also received authority from my Father
(Rev 2:25-27, cf. Psalm 2:8-9).
And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron (Rev 12:5).
No offense, but your sarcasm sucks.
Last edited by E20; 07-10-2006 at 02:12 PM.
Dr. Sanity has a must-read post looking at how many Arab cultures, particularly the Palestinians, are warping their children by raising them to regard women as nothing and killing Jews as a higher calling. She links to a TV program for children that encourages them in jihad against the evil Jews. And then she brings in psychological research on what such a warped childrearing environment does to the next generation.
Her conclusion should give pause to anyone who optimistically expects the situation to change anytime soon. It also succinctly illustrates the difference between Islam and all other religions.
As long as these child-rearing practices are in practice, there will rise up generation after generation who sees murderous martyrdom as the most worthwhile purpose of their lives.
But, there is hope. Checking Iraq the Model today, he has posted the comments of Iraqis on their reactions to the kidnapping of the Israeli soldier.
There is more reaction. I urge you to read the rest...
Arab culture is a basket case, yes. They have responded to their inability to adapt to the modern world by taking refuge in victimization, violence, and a romanticized view of the brutal past. They are dehumanizing themselves.
that is spiritual, not literal in a physical sense.
Because of guys like OBL and Zarqawi and the rest of the gang able to seduce below average Joes and blowing everything out of porportion(i.e. Israel, US in ME etc.) to get their jobs done.
With the exception of your citation from Luke, which is taken out of the context of the parable of the ten pounds and were the words of a harsh slave-holder that was a character in that parable; not literal instructions for followers of Jesus Christ.
Without researching the others, suffice it to say that from your excerpts alone, it is clear that they all describe the actions of God and are not instructions for followers...such as can be found in the Koran.
None taken.No offense, but your sarcasm sucks.
For what it's worth, take into consideration the context and the situation of when the Quran and Hadith were estabilished. The sarcasm thing was towards Extra Stout.None taken.
It is easier to promote violence within Islam than it is within Christianity. That does not mean that terrorism is a "tenet" of Islam, or that all Muslims deep down secretly believe in it and are waiting for the day when they can rise up and smite our throats.
Besides, it's not like it's hard to encourage violence under Christianity. A leader of whatever country can just claim that whatever war he wants to fight is a "just war" by whatever reasoning he can muster up, and a fair number of believers will go along with it. That's how it worked in Europe for nearly two millenia.
Someone needs to tell the Jihadis that.For what it's worth, take into consideration the context and the situation of when the Quran and Hadith were estabilished. The sarcasm thing was towards Extra Stout.
These kids look like the bunch that could do it and considered what's going on down there, the US helped liberated some rationale thinkers under oppresion to help people reliaze that the clerics in charge are actually terrorists.
Yet another justification for liberating Iraq.
Yup. It is their secret Muslim mind meld taught to them directly by Satan himself in their ritual baby-eating ceremonies.
Or better yet you get skinheads etc. that claim to have God on their side and readily quote Bible passages to support their beliefs.
KKK members almost to a member call themselves "Good Christians".
Does that make the case for muslims to say that all christians are just waiting to lynch non-believers?
I would argue with the notion that Germany "started" WWI.
Wasn't it a family squabble fought by proxy?
Is the USA peaceful?
Does the phrase "pre-emptive war" sound peaceful to you?
Does the idea of another 9/11 sound peaceful to you, DR?
But, back to the question, it would depend on what you mean by peaceful.
Right now, with the exception of a few inner-city areas, the U.S.A. is damn peaceful. I know the birds are chirping in my 'hood.
I'm not really sure I understand the point of the thread. Is it to say "my religion is better than yours?" or is it to suggest that the world would be a better place if Islam could be eradicated? or is it something between those extremes -- still more rationalization for the proliferation of an amorphous war?
I meant peaceful in the global sense, not the domestic.
Pre-emptive war against a country that had ZERO ties to 9/11 is supposed to prevent the next one?
IF we were truly going that road, we would have invaded Saudi Arabia....ooooo, wait.....cant do that....yeah, those guys, real good buds of the Bushies....whoops, my bad.
We're still peaceful, in a global sense.
Better check with your other Demo-bots, I believe the word "zero," in this context is losing currency; thanks to project Harmony.
But, you go ahead, hang on that article of faith just as long as you can. The look of surprise will be priceless.
Who says they aren't next...unless, of course, a Democratic Iraq proves to incite the kind of internal reforms -- across the entire middle east -- that it appears to be accomplishing thus far.
Sometimes, you just have to pick the right brick to pull out of the wall, and it all comes tumbling down.
By the way, I'm glad you're not involved in foreign policy decisions.
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