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    Buffon never got close to stopping any of those PKs. When Germany went to PKs vs. Argentina, Lehmann was spot on every single time.

    Thats why I say Lehmann > Buffon
    There are two ways to look at it...

    The better 'in game' goalie.... Buffon.

    The better PK stopper... Lehmann (plus he was smart enough to use a cheat sheet )

    Overall... I'd still say it was Buffon.

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    Well, if you're goign to talk about changes, how about eliminating the offside rule?

    I'm hardly an expert on this, but what's its purpose? Would the offense really have such a huge advantage without offsides that individual goals would become meaningless? Seems to me it would open up things more and allow for different strategies in terms of trading offense for defense.
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    Well, if you're goign to talk about changes, how about eliminating the offside rule?

    I'm hardly an expert on this, but what it's purpose? Would the offense really have such a huge advantage without offsides that individual goals would become meaningless? Seems to me it would open up things more and allow for different strategies in terms of trading offense for defense.

    The offsides rule is the heart of defense though.... if you eliminate it, the offense gets more than a considerable advantage...

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    What would the scores be like if you didn't have it?

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    What would the scores be like if you didn't have it?

    It would be higher... that's all I know... YODA "to quantify it, hard would it be''...

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    Well, that's the point. One of the ways to eliminate PK would be to reduce the number of ties, which I think is a result of low scoring.

    Those of us who aren't experts joke about it, but the fact is at the WC level you can dominate the game and win 1-0, or be outplayed and yet win 1-0. Not much room for error either way.

    I can see why you wouldn't want a bunch of 10-7 games, but if it gave us more 3-2, 4-3 games, I don't see how that would be bad.

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    It might actually cause lower scoring if offside is eliminated. The four/five defensive players would probably just fall back near the penalty box, since they'd be no point in them moving forward if the opposing team is allowed to run yards behind them waiting for passes (think of cherry picking).

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    There are two ways to look at it...

    The better 'in game' goalie.... Buffon.

    The better PK stopper... Lehmann (plus he was smart enough to use a cheat sheet )

    Overall... I'd still say it was Buffon.
    You've got a point there... I'm just a bit partial to the fatherland.

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    You've got a point there... I'm just a bit partial to the fatherland.

    Though I would probably add that I believe Kahn is a better 'in-game' goalie than Lehmann...

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    Well, if you're goign to talk about changes, how about eliminating the offside rule?

    I'm hardly an expert on this, but what's its purpose? Would the offense really have such a huge advantage without offsides that individual goals would become meaningless? Seems to me it would open up things more and allow for different strategies in terms of trading offense for defense.
    I think the game would be more like ping-pong game then. Not much tactics whatsoever.

    FIFA is not that much liberal, but there are some ideas like playing 10 on 10 or wide the goals.
    Still the players have faster balls ( ) and better soccer shoes and the scorees haven't improve.

    In NBA you have chcnges cause the defense was too tight. Now you can't even touch a player and the players can't show all the defense that they could in a reules that were well about 10-15 yrs ago.

    In soccer there is not much you can do. You won't eliminate fouling. Even if the ruls will be more restrict (is it good word?). The refs will be giving red cards and so on then most of the games would change into Portuga;l _holland type of games where the ref have a problem what is red what is not.

    And still in soccer they can't use instant replay in the games to decide. The Zidane thing was an exception and that;'s why their coach was pissed about taht. Cause it is notb in the book (instant replay)

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    Well, that's the point. One of the ways to eliminate PK would be to reduce the number of ties, which I think is a result of low scoring.

    Those of us who aren't experts joke about it, but the fact is at the WC level you can dominate the game and win 1-0, or be outplayed and yet win 1-0. Not much room for error either way.

    I can see why you wouldn't want a bunch of 10-7 games, but if it gave us more 3-2, 4-3 games, I don't see how that would be bad.
    how about we eliminate the goalies and put blindfolds on the defense

    My friend you have to understand soccer is like life, it's not perfect, its not fair and sometimes it's not even pretty. But you still love life right? But it's the sport that you can get most passionate about and that's why its the most popular.

    It is what it is, it's not a sport that you can change the rules year in and year out like bball or football.

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