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    Yup, my debit to income ratio is exactly where I want it to be, and debt within reason isn't a bad thing.

    If that were the case then you wouldn't have to finance a television.

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    Yup, my debit to income ratio is exactly where I want it to be, and debt within reason isn't a bad thing.
    I don't disagree PM5K, I just keyed on the whole TV thing. To me, financing "big ticket" items is an unfortunate evil, but is necessary. But, small things, that aren't really necessary, are a luxury rather than a need.

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    Lord, use your CC however you like. If you can't pay the balance off completely in a few months, don't buy it.

    Oh, and financing a new car is probably one of the worst things you can do with your money...

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    Oh, and financing a new car is probably one of the worst things you can do with your money...
    How do you get your cars, steal them? Race for pink slips?

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    I agree, maybe others would rather finance a new washer and dryer, or a new fridge, or stove, but I already have all of those items and all of them are less than one year old, so if I want to buy a tv, it's my prerogative....

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    Divert their funds to other means where the return is higher!!!!!!!! Wow, a lot of investment gurus put their televisions on payment plans don't they!!!!!!!!!!!! If it isn't such a difficult concept, then please explain it to us, because now I'm really intrigued.

    Ac ulating debt with the purchase of small items is what people do that are living beyond their means, either that or they are rich and irresponsible, either way it is irresponsible money management, period.

    yes its mostly something done by people living paycheck to paycheck, most people arent intelligent when it comes to money.


    the debt on a smaller item for a short period of time is not always out of this world.

    i'm just saying that sometimes one doesnt have the liquid funds necessary to purchase said television and dont want to wait until the liquid funds become available and are willing to pay the interest on said item because they have a good rate and the amount paid wouldnt be outlandish to said person. thats why being able to pay something same as cash over a period of 90 days or what not is nice, its still credit though. its not the norm overall but its possible.

    thats why its not usually a good idea to use words such as never and other similar qualifiers.


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    How do you get your cars, steal them? Race for pink slips?
    He probably gets them used, maybe one year with less than 15K miles on them, and saves a ton...

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    thats why its not usually a good idea to use words such as never and other similar qualifiers.

    Ain't that the truth...

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    Lord, use your CC however you like. If you can't pay the balance off completely in a few months, don't buy it.

    Oh, and financing a new car is probably one of the worst things you can do with your money...


    most people cant afford to plunk down 20k for a new vehicle.

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    I agree, maybe others would rather finance a new washer and dryer, or a new fridge, or stove, but I already have all of those items and all of them are less than one year old, so if I want to buy a tv, it's my prerogative....
    Of course it's your perogative Bobby Brown, however it isn't the wise financial move to purchase wants with credit unless you have the money to avoid interest payments.

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    I agree, maybe others would rather finance a new washer and dryer, or a new fridge, or stove, but I already have all of those items and all of them are less than one year old, so if I want to buy a tv, it's my prerogative....
    Of course by all means a responsible adult should be able to use their credit to purchase whatever they deem worthy and I never meant to imply otherwise.

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    Of course it's your perogative Bobby Brown, however it isn't the wise financial move to purchase wants with credit unless you have the money to avoid interest payments.
    Why not, my needs are already taken care of, why not take care of my wants?

    Wise? Who are you to say what's wise for me? You don't know anything about my financial situation and I'd imagine that most people who do would say that I have made wise moves financially...

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    Of course by all means a responsible adult should be able to use their credit to purchase whatever they deem worthy and I never meant to imply otherwise.
    You just got yourself something free on my Chase Platinum Mastercard...


























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    most people cant afford to plunk down 20k for a new vehicle.
    I think most people would be (financially) better off not purchasing a new vehicle. Seriously, this is one place where people usually go way outside what they should spend on a item according to their finances.

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    thats why its not usually a good idea to use words such as never and other similar qualifiers.

    Let's not get into semantics, but for future reference in this thread assume that I'm talking about general rule of thumb. If you want to get completely realistic you could find a place pretty easily that will sell you the television and finance for no interest in the first few months, so that is probably what people living paycheck to paycheck would do, if they were wise.

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    I think most people would be (financially) better off not purchasing a new vehicle. Seriously, this is one place where people usually go way outside what they should spend on a item according to their finances.

    Simply due to the deprecation of said new car I assume?

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    Thats a factor, but really people just spend far too much on cars to begin with. Someone making 30k a year shoudln't purchase a vehicle that is 2/3rds of their annual income yet you see it happen all the time.

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    Thats a factor, but really people just spend far too much on cars to begin with. Someone making 30k a year shoudln't purchase a vehicle that is 2/3rds of their annual income yet you see it happen all the time.

    what about someone purchasing a car that is 1/3 of their annual income? Still bad to finance?

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    Thats a factor, but really people just spend far too much on cars to begin with. Someone making 30k a year shoudln't purchase a vehicle that is 2/3rds of their annual income yet you see it happen all the time.
    So you think a 20K dollar car financed over five years is too much for someone making 30K a year?

    I'm not saying I disagree, just asking...

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    btw for someone making 30k a year, what should be the upper limit for said mortgage?

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    oh and i think renting is the stupidest thing you can do for what its worth, since we want to lay out personal philosophies out there.

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    Why not, my needs are already taken care of, why not take care of my wants?

    Wise? Who are you to say what's wise for me? You don't know anything about my financial situation and I'd imagine that most people who do would say that I have made wise moves financially...

    Because if you can't afford the television, or whatever other large or small item wants you are after, you save up an buy it then. Aside from paying for the intrest attached to these items, you have no idea what needs will arise in your life between the time you put it on credit and the planned time of full payment. Medical, transportation, house related, or whatever would take presidence over payment of these wants. So when these needs arise, guess what happens? That's right the wants stay on your card collecting interest while you pay off teh needs that arrose. And don't act like needs don't arrise out of nowhere, because they do all the time.

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    Because if you can't afford the television, or whatever other large or small item wants you are after, you save up an buy it then. Aside from paying for the intrest attached to these items, you have no idea what needs will arise in your life between the time you put it on credit and the planned time of full payment. Medical, transportation, house related, or whatever would take presidence over payment of these wants. So when these needs arise, guess what happens? That's right the wants stay on your card collecting interest while you pay off teh needs that arrose. And don't act like needs don't arrise out of nowhere, because they do all the time.
    All taken care of, I keep money in the bank for things like that, and I have payment protection on my credit cards, well the ones that I use...

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    My cars have been 2-3 years old when purchased, though recently I've turned to leasing.

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    All taken care of, I keep money in the bank for things like that, and I have payment protection on my credit cards, well the ones that I use...
    So if the transmission went out on your car and you broke your leg and had to miss some time at work within say two weeks on each other, you would be completely covered? If that is the case you wouldn't need to finance a television.

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