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I never said deal Horry for Hedo, the deal was Barry for Hedo.
I said Horry has only really performed up to his rep in one postseason. One postseason was all Hedo got here.
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I strongly disagree with this on Horry. 04 he was awesome against memphis but he was awful in the Laker series because Phil and that team knew him inside/out. Plus He made up for that in 2005. This year I blame Pop and the coaching staff for playing him too early in the game and not playing him late in the series. I cant even give my 2 cents on Horry's performance simply because Pop used him all wrong in this years playoffs especially late in games on a final possession! Plus dealing Horry (unless it is for someone very awesome) would be a big mistake because his contract isnt long term and Orlando (for example) could buy him out and he could go to another contender. Do you really want to risk that on the clutchest role player in the game outside of it being a GREAT deal??? I think not.
I never said deal Horry for Hedo, the deal was Barry for Hedo.
I said Horry has only really performed up to his rep in one postseason. One postseason was all Hedo got here.
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Well if he's looking for 3+ million that's way more than what the Magic want to pay...unfortunately, it looks like it's way more than the Spurs want to pay as well.
I still think he can be had...and the way this offseason is playing out, the Spurs could gamble part of their MLE on the two week waiting period waiting for the Magic to match, and it likely wouldn't cost us any players we want.
This is the situation where you make a play for a RFA if you ask me...doesn't look like the Spurs are willing to do it though.
Elson...Collins....holy crap....why bother?
it is unfair to judge him this year tho! Pop NEVER used him late in games and had him burnt out before the 4th quarter of games in the playoffs. The 04 series against the Lakers you can say all you want but other then that he produced or was used wrong by Pop
That's a whole lot for a wing without a jumper. I don't see anyone offering that much. That said, if Daniels continues to impress he could make Ariza expendable if all that player has to do is spell Hedo for 12 minutes a game.Well if he's looking for 3+ million that's way more than what the Magic want to pay...unfortunately, it looks like it's way more than the Spurs want to pay as well.
I disagree. Horry admitted he wasn't in any kind of shape to play the way he needed to this offseason and said he would work on his conditioning so he could get minutes next season.
Wait Horry said this after the Mavs series?? If he did then that is his fault
We dont need a ing Irk stopper! I hate that it seems like we need someone to stop dirk! Be physical with the and knock him on his ass anytime he drives and he falls apart! Look what Miami did to him with their bigs being physical on him and they didnt really have a long 3 (unless you count Posey). A future 3 is something we need but we dont have to have a long 3 to get back to being champs!
The return of the Layup Drill?
Be still my beating heart.
There's your big 3 who can play the 4 against smaller teams and defend out on the perimeter. Looking at what's now available in free agency there are worse options.
Hedo had problems coming off the bench when he was here. That being said, we do have a starting spot on the front line open, and he did average 18/8 during long periods replacing CWebb on Sacto's front line...
Orlando doesn't like Hedo contracts. So a trade may be able to negotiate but other teams may have better offer. Barry alone is not enough to match the salary nor attractive enough given that Orlando is a young team.
You do not want Turkoglu as your top perimeter option on offense. But the Spurs have Parker, Manu, Finley, and Barry for that. You want Hedo to defend, rebound, get out on the break, and yes, be there for the occassional 3. Hedo would make sense for this team in that 'long 3' role who can defend the bigger perimeter players in the league from the 2 to 4 spots. The Spurs have a big gaping hole in their team between the frontcourt and the backcourt. That needs to be addressed. His contract isn't that great, but with Rasho and Rose gone it's doable. He's 27 now and the last 4 years would take him to age 31 so the Spurs wouldn't be stuck paying a guy out of his prime big $. The Spurs have reoriented their cap away from the 5 spot. That by itself is not a bad thing. In today's NBA you can probably get away with starting a Jarron Collins or whoever for 20 minutes a night at the 5.
The reason Hedo received much grief from Spurs fans was due to his less than stellar crunch time perimeter game, but otherwise he would solve the basic issue facing this team.
We did get physical with him...I believe the result was him setting and NBA playoff record for Free Throws or something to that effect...
Dirk or not...our SF rotation averages 6'7...that is too small in todays NBA.
We have a gap in our rotation, it jumps from 6'7 to 6'10...we don't have any mid sized guys, we need them.
It's not just about Dirk, it's about LeBron, and Diaw etc...and getting physical in a mismatch is no subs ute for having the right player for the job.
But about Dirk...Pop doesn't trust his C's so we end up guarding Dirk with players 5 inches shorter...and he just shoots over them, and he still gets to the FT line at will. We need someone that will actually get court time...and anyway, saying all we need is physical play doesn't mean we're going to get it.
Spurs fans ready to welcome back Hedo with open arms -- who knew?
Yeah, but then taruky would come back.
Spurs fans wanting Hedo back.That Spurs team was the best rebounding team the Spurs ever had- Pop even said so- and Hedo was a big part of that. He was a much better defender than he ever got credit for. I admit that I laugh a little whenever people ask why we can't find a long 3! We had one, but Spurs fans were destined to hate him forever because he started and Manu came off the bench.
I keep hearing this claim, but Rob only averaged 17 minutes per game in the play-offs in 2006- and even less against Dallas 15.9. Personally, I think Horry played too little to get into a rhythm- just like all the big men not named Duncan.
I was thinking of Taruky when I started reading this thread and Hedo. Those were some good times. I wonder if he is on an Orlando Magic board right now?
There are a article two or three days ago that quoted Orlando's GM that said they couldn't do much because they weren't willing to trade their most desirable players. He mentioned two or three players specifically including Nelson and Hedo.
I take that to mean that Barry for Hedo is a no go.
At this point Horry is not going to be useful at the 3.
With Finley around, Hedo's faults aren't as exposed.... or as hindering...
I thought the way Pop used him as a decoy in the Barry Bounce game was genius.
i would take hedo back, but would he come off the bench? would he have a problem with that?
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