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Then how no one's trading for any of them?most other NBA teams would kill to have our bench
Ehh, I'd rather have our 3 all stars surrounded by one former All-star, a career clutch NBA veteran, a good 3 pointer shooter, and a former Gold Medalist center. Other than the Mavs and the Heat (to an extent), most other NBA teams would kill to have our bench...however aging it may be.
Then how no one's trading for any of them?most other NBA teams would kill to have our bench
We have 3 Bigs, and How many Bigs have the Teams of the NBA
The Pistons are Back to 3, but the most have 1 or 2, Like LA and Kobe, Sonics and Ray Allen, Wolves and Garnett, Sixers and AI
The Spurs are one of the teams in the NBA that have an all around good team. We have:
Duncan
Parker
Ginobili
Bowen
Horry
Finley
Unlike teams such as the 76er's who only have Allen Iverson. Or the Cavaliers who only have Ilgauskus and Lebron. Or the Rockets who only have Yao and T-Mac.
Pippen/Jordan/Rodman
Parker/Duncan/Manu
It's not too far off. We don't need a "Pippen".
not too far off?
Pippen was a top 50 player of all time, Manu and Parker are no way near Pippen's level
Neither one of them is Pippen. Certainly not at the moment.
But it's worth remembering that Parker is a top-5 PG in the league at the ripe old age of 24.
If Parker succeeds in adding the range he's working on and develops the court vision and floor leadership that a lot of points get as they mature, there's no question that he could be a Hall of Fame player by the time he retires.
scottie pippen was so overrated give me a break, he's ing good but he was nothing without Mike. no way in is he top 50, mj made him better just like Tim makes everyone better.
Lets Look at the other teams who have all around good players besides us...
Heat-
Wade
Shaq
Zo
Sometimes...
Walker
Williams
Posey
Haslem
Mavs
Dirk
Testicle Puncher
Howard
Sometimes Harris
Stack
Suns
Marion
Amare
Diaw
Nash
Bell
Bulls
Gordon
Wallace
Hinrich
SPURS
TIM
MANU
BRUCE
TP
MIKE
and a good bench
The center of our defense and offense are still here, theres no dominant center in the league that a combo of Tim, Elson, Butler, Fabs, and Robert cant handle. This year we'll still be great and its ing obvious we're gonna trade someone, i dunno if you realized it but next year wont be too competetive. Mavs got worse, heat older than us, bulls too young, pistons have no D, rockets have two good players, suns still cant play D... I know eventually after this season we're gonna need a good center but the fact is this season we will be fine cause there wont be much big men compe ion. We got better at rebounding throughout the playoffs and thats when we weren't even using stone hands or that piece of rasho
And Duncan is not Jordan.
Manu is not an all star caliber player. He is a solid role player, thats all. He did not come thru in two big spots in the playoffs and does not consistently put up the big stats. His numbers do not compare with the true all stars.
I do not know why he was voted on by the coaches to make the all star team a couple years ago but not making it last year was no surprise.
If the spurs are reluying on Parker, Duncan and Manu and scrubs it will be like the Robinson years before Duncan all over again. Good enough to make the playoffs but not good enough to even make it again to the finals. There will always be at least 2 or 3 teams better that will knock them out.
"but not making it last year was no surprise."
... he was out injured a lot before the all-star voting.
no, he wasn't good enough. There were better selections.
yes, he was good enough. There were no better selections.
That is the most ridiculous whining I have ever heard. Grow up.
BRUCE?!?!?! BRUCE ALMIGHTY?????? Are you insane? Are you drunk? On drugs? If you want to get a clue and get real, let me know. Otherwise, I am ignoring your nonsense posts.
How 'bout Spurs Dynasty 21 for any scrub from another board?
Tony Parker could end up as one of the top Point Guards of all time. The combo of him and Manu challenge what Pippen brought to the Bulls.
My point was simply you can't say "Without so-and-so we have nothing" because you can say that about every teams best 2-3 players.
and your moronic self can continue to live in this fantasy world that the Spurs are having an incredible off season
What real talent is there? Name someone the Spurs could realistically get right now that is such a great talent. Name someone they could have gotten since the Heat finished the Mavs that is such a great talent. At least the Spurs have the intelligence to realize that this is a horrible off season for talent, and that there is not much to be gained here. Everyone pimps Javtokas and Scola, but how many people have actually SEEN them PLAY A WHOLE GAME? Or play against NBA talent? I'll trust the full time scouts over a clip on youtube any day.
No, not an incredible off season. Given the dry pool of talent out there this summer, that would be impossible. But the good news is they haven't completely destroyed the team that won 63 games.
I think it was kind of brainless to blow the Scola and Javtokas situations both. Coming away from them with nothing, just stupid. This was a critical point of the offseason and they left talent there on the table. Javtokas they'll probably never get anything for. Scola they might get something relatively decent, like a late 1st rounder, but I'm doubting it.
Possibly, but I haven't seen enough of either one to say they would fare any better than say Jackie Butler. Or anyone else the Spurs might get. Obviously the front office is not that impressed with either. I guess for every Manu and TP you pluck out of Europe you get 10 guys with potential that just don't work out for you.
the spurs have rights to 5 international players and we are here begging to end up with the knicks and/or nuggets' 3rd center. unreal. all because someone is afraid to spend a little bit more here in the remainder of tim duncan's prime. ing spurs admit they want to pay less for less productive players. if we end up with san francisco elson this is the end of the road for me. someone else can bother handing over $ to this team to line its pockets instead of try to surround one of the greatest players ever with the talent so that the team can win more championships. cheap mother s. hopefully more and more spurs fans will realize what is going on and kick them to the curb.
Ah, but the difference is the Spurs own Scola and Javtokas's rights. Butler was always a longshot. Bird in the hand, eh?
This offseason will go down infamously like the blown Josh Howard and Andres Nocioni dropped balls.
have you watched the 5 international players? Scola's buyout is a major problem, Javtokas is obviously not ready to start at center in the NBA (although he probably wants NBA starting center money), Ian is at least one year away from being considered. Everyone else is a scrub. Because of this thing called the salary cap you can't go blowing your wad on every breathing 7' guy that comes along. You have to be smart with the money, and that is why the Spurs have 3 les in 7 years. Go watch the Knicks if you want a moron who blows money like it's gonna be worthless tommorow.
It's always a gamble. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. Nocioni and Howard slipped by and were mistakes. I don't know that not bringing Scola or Javtokas over is a mistake... drafting them in the first place may be the mistake. But then again, it's hard to find gems in the second round.
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