Isiah now thinking Butler doesn't do it

[Quadzilla99]

The first thing I thought when I saw him play on the Knicks was that he was a little overweight. He is definitely 10-20 lbs overweight. It's not worth getting worked up over just a concern like when somebody says Mahinmi needs to bulk up or Parker need to improve his jumper.

[Kori Ellis]

The first thing I thought when I saw him play on the Knicks was that he was a little overweight. He is definitely 10-20 lbs overweight. It's not worth getting worked up over just a concern like when somebody says Mahinmi needs to bulk up or Parker need to improve his jumper.

I think me standing next to him without his shirt on would know if he's overweight compared to you seeing him on TV, but hey you are en led to your opinion

[Quadzilla99]

I want him to sign here anyways and think he's a pretty good player.

[Kori Ellis]

Well don't worry, the Spurs organization has a good eating regimen for their players if he gets here. Too bad Beno doesn't follow it.

[Quadzilla99]

It would be a generous thing to let a young player go play somewhere where he has a chance to start. Although it's a business and that doesn't factor in. It would kind of suck for him if they resigned him back up Curry and Compete with Jerome James for minutes. I remember Dumars saying he let Milicic go because he could see how unhappy he was becoming and that he didn't want to do that to anybody. So maybe they will give him what he wants. Probably a fat chance of that happening though.

[MannyIsGod]

Well don't worry, the Spurs organization has a good eating regimen for their players if he gets here. Too bad Beno doesn't follow it.

PF Changs eating MOFO.

[TDMVPDPOY]

isiah thomas is a jackass, soft spot? thats probaly the only good thing his done since gm of the underwears.

[Parker 09]

Please isiah one more dumb executive decision please.....

[exstatic]

Please isiah one more dumb executive decision please.....

Actually, the dumb decision would be to match.

[Samr]

If the Spurs sign Butler, and have Elson back him up, I am liable to wet myself. These next few days may ruin me with emotional stress from anticipation.

So let's say, by some incredible gift from god, that we get these two guys. NOW would you consider the Spur's offseason a success?

[exstatic]

If the Spurs sign Butler, and have Elson back him up, I am liable to wet myself. These next few days may ruin me with emotional stress from anticipation.

So let's say, by some incredible gift from god, that we get these two guys. NOW would you consider the Spur's offseason a success?

They woudn't be done. I'm thinking there are trades in the works that depend on if we get zero, one, or two centers out of our offer sheets.

[1Parker1]

PF Changs eating MOFO.

[TDMVPDPOY]

there is also talk stupid nuggets not matchin offer cose they dont wanna pay lux tax.

[pache100]

Yeah, the guy's a huge lardass.

Even if he is what some consider "fat", they will get him down here, hook him up with a nutritionist, get him on the "Danny Ferry macrobiotic diet" that Timmy and some of the other Spurs players are on, and he'll be fine.

[strangeweather]

If the Spurs sign Butler, and have Elson back him up, I am liable to wet myself. These next few days may ruin me with emotional stress from anticipation.

As much as I like Butler, I wouldn't count on him just coming in and starting. It's possible he'll earn a starting job early on and it's possible it will be midseason, but it's not a lock that it will even be this year -- he's really young.

I think the point of signing Elson is supposed to be to reduce the pressure to rush things.

[Mr. Body]

I'm pretty sure the Spurs are after Elson just for a guy who can start at the beginning of the season, then take a bench position as Butler comes on. There can be no other explanation, even though Elson has only started in Denver's (plentiful) injury instances.

This will forever feel short-sighted to me. 1) Butler may be matched, making the point moot, and 2) Javtokas has silly upside over Elson (it admittedly doesn't take much).

Is it that important to be slightly more compe ive in the first 15-25 games that we're strangulating some potential talent on the bench?

[strangeweather]

I'm pretty sure the Spurs are after Elson just for a guy who can start at the beginning of the season, then take a bench position as Butler comes on. There can be no other explanation, even though Elson has only started in Denver's (plentiful) injury instances.

This will forever feel short-sighted to me. 1) Butler may be matched, making the point moot, and 2) Javtokas has silly upside over Elson (it admittedly doesn't take much).

Is it that important to be slightly more compe ive in the first 15-25 games that we're strangulating some potential talent on the bench?

What if neither Butler or Javtokas are ready to start all season? Do you rush one of them along and risk damaging his development, or do you you start Oberto?

Throwing developing players into the deep end on a veteran playoff team is a dangerous prospect both for the player and the team.

[NBA Junkie]

If the Knicks don't match, I don't think it's because they found someone with the MLE, but James Dolan is finally serious about closing the pursestrings.

My bet is that they're still going after Kenyon Martin in a possible trade.

[Mr. Body]

What if neither Butler or Javtokas are ready to start all season? Do you rush one of them along and risk damaging his development, or do you you start Oberto?

Throwing developing players into the deep end on a veteran playoff team is a dangerous prospect both for the player and the team.

I'd start Oberto. It's worth it to get an upside player like Javtokas on the squad, rather than 30 games of Elson. Even if we go .500 in those games (unlikely) it's worth it.

[Mr. Body]

If the Knicks don't match, I don't think it's because they found someone with the MLE, but James Dolan is finally serious about closing the pursestrings.

My bet is that they're still going after Kenyon Martin in a possible trade.

I too think K-Mart's their man. That's the thing - if they do a trade, it'll be for a big man, not reducing Butler's expendability.

[ducks]

what would be funny is if butler is for someone else and spur fans want to keep
him
then they would really be ticked at the fo

[Solid D]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...ghlight=Butler

Here is a very short (3 page) game Blog from the first look we got at Jackie Butler as a Knick on October 22 last year.

I went to the game and here were a couple of comments about him in that Game Blog (in fact, singled him out).

BTW - we got a first look at Jackie Butler tonight and he was very impressive. He's big, he blocked 4 shots and bothered several others. He has touch around the basket and he even showed a decent mid-range game.

The Spurs seemed to be able to stay just ahead of the Knicks all night. In the last 3-4 minutes of the game, Pop took his scorers out with the exception of Tony (I don't see Brent as a true scorer). He had TP, Barry, Sanders, Marks and Rasho on the floor in the last 3 minutes and the Spurs only scored one FG and had 3 TOs. Frye and Jackie Butler played excellent interior D during that time.

The Knicks, on the other hand, had Jamal Crawford - their penultimate scorer (since Marbury was sitting) and a hot Channing Frye, and they didn't miss.

That's how you lose a game after you controlled it the majority of the time.

[baseline bum]

Isiah's just messing with Pop. I would be absolutely shocked if he doesn't match. He just wants to screw us over since RC's forcing his hand into paying a lot more than he wanted to.

[MajorMike]

If Larry Brown tells you a young kid is gonna be good, you take freakin notice.

Larry Brown doesn't gush about young kids often. Think about that.

They had his prep school coach on the Ticket yesterday. He is now coach of a Christian Prep school here in San Antonio. He said, in his opinion, he is already an ungrade over Nazr and Rasho because not only does he have offensive ability, but great hands for a bigman as well.

[Mr. Body]

They had his prep school coach on the Ticket yesterday. He is now coach of a Christian Prep school here in San Antonio. He said, in his opinion, he is already an ungrade over Nazr and Rasho because not only does he have offensive ability, but great hands for a bigman as well.

I can't listen to this stuff. It just means more tears when he's matched.