well no matter how much potential Butler has, I am not sold yet....I actually prefer Elson, I think he's more ready to help us win a championship
For the moment, it seems Isiah Thomas is the center of attention @ SpursTalk. I just hope your over grown fat baby center pan out in NY (for your sake). That will get very interesting.
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well no matter how much potential Butler has, I am not sold yet....I actually prefer Elson, I think he's more ready to help us win a championship
Butler looks to be about the same size and weight as Antoine Carr. I liked Carr, he even did a decent job of guarding Shaq at time. Is Jackie's game at all similar to AC?
I will admit I don't know jack about Jackie B.
I'm Isiah fu#$%in Thomas I'm the center of attention wherever I go.
I'd say Butler is more like Antoine Hotwheel
Really?
Butler looks to be about the same size and weight as Antoine Carr. I liked Carr, he even did a decent job of guarding Shaq at times. Is Jackie's game at all similar to AC?
I will admit I don't know jack about Jackie B.
More like Antoine Matchbox
Are you talking Antoine Walker?I thought his name was Antonie Walker not Antonie Matchbox?
Read the quote you moron
Oh Okay!I read the quote!I'm not a moron.
Do ya'll think that the Knicks will make the playoffs and if the Knicks doesn't make the playoff will the Knicks owner fire Isiah Thomas?
Who is the owner of the Knicks?
Isiah is a genius. gotta love a guy that will help us out when we need young promising center or a player to help us win a championship. i don't know what knicks fans are complaining about. i think isiah is brilliant.
"That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified."
-1 Thessalonians 4:6
Only concern is his defense.
And he works pro-bono.
The man has a heart of gold.
GOD, I'd just like to point out that the only defrauding done here was by Isiaih Thomas unto himself. He might have to avenge in and of himself, although I have no idea how that works...![]()
Peace be with you, for Jimmy Dolan ain't resting tonight!![]()
Here's an e-mail a good friend of mine who works in the Knicks FO sent me. He's in the PR dept., but he saw all 82 this past year and knows his basketball:
" As far as the center situation, you and the rest of Spurs fans will be pleasantly surprised with Jackie Butler. He's a legit low post player and does all his work downlow. If he can get into better shape, learn to rebound and block and coexist with TD downlow he's going to be a huge help to us. He's more talented than Nazr or Rasho ever were and considering the fact that he's going to be playing next to TD, he's going to have less pressure on him to be the "big guy." TD will erase mistakes. I'm extremely pleased with the Butler signing and it looks like the Knicks are not going to match. I read something interesting about how LB might have provied Pop with an extensive scouting report on Butler which is the reason why we signed him to an offer. I reiterate...Spurs fans will be pleasantly surprised."
I hadn't considered that maybe the reason Pop has a hard-on for JBut is because LB gave him the inside scoop. If that's the case, I'm so happy that Larry is screwing Isiah back. I blame those ing idiotic players and Isiah for all that and feel sorry for LB. I hope Butler is as good as my friend says he is.
To be fair,
1) Get in better shape.
2) Learn to rebound.
3) Learn to coexist with Duncan.
... are all pretty tall orders.
You're a moron if you really believe your talking to Isiah Thomas.
He's already a respectable rebounder -- which is good, because it's a skill where most players reach their level fairly early. He'll likely never be Duncan or Reggie Evans, but he won't be Rasho either.
He's not an ideal player to play with Duncan, but even if he's just Nazr with better hands and fewer pump fakes, it's quite the step in the right direction. And if we can get him some post touches when Duncan's up in the high post, he should look pretty good.
Getting in top shape is the big one. Hopefully Pop can light a fire under the guy.
Your contentions are simply wrong here.
Manu started less than half of the games in 2003-04, but not because Pop was unhappy with his play. Manu started without question through most of the first half of that season. He got hurt, which forced Hedo into the lineup. The previously-ineffective Turkoglu took off (relatively speaking) once he began starting games, and when Manu was ready to come back, Pop decided to bring Manu off the bench to keep Hedo in the lineup. You make it sound as though Pop benched Manu because of some sort of ineffectiveness. Manu's "benching" had nothing to do with Manu and everything to do with Hedo and maximizing Hedo's effectiveness. In fact, Pop "benched" Manu because he knew that Manu was mature enough to accept a 6th Man role and provide the sort of spark and effort that the Spurs needed.
Curiously counter-intuitive to your argument, Pop repeated that during the 2005 playoffs, starting Brent Barry in games 2-5 of the Denver series and Games 1-4 of the Seattle series. Pop made that move not because Manu was ineffective, but because the Spurs needed a spark off the bench and Manu was mature enough to understand that it would help the team for him to provide that spark.
Pop is hard on young players, but Manu gained Pop's trust very quickly.
If Butler comes in here and works hard to pick up the system and do the right things, Pop will find him minutes and let him earn some trust.
Why does that last quote sound a lot like Tim Duncan? Now I know how he's spending his offseason.
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