Jaw-dropping archaeological find in Ireland - early Medieval Book of Psalms unearthed

[Melmart1]

I am the last person to go and defend the Catholic Church, as I had my issues with it through 12 years of Catholic School. However, I am not going to go and chatise others for their beliefs. This is a very important finding and may even be miraculous. Those who don't believe are really better served just keeping their mouth shut so as not to sound like a bitter, hating idiot.

Who are you to go tell others what to believe? I can understand if this had to do with law or politics, I think you should keep religion out of that at all costs. However, this is simply a book in the mud if you don't believe, so why get all up in arms about it?

[Phenomanul]

If your faith is so damn strong, why do you Bible thumpers need these special effects, aka miracles, as central to your beliefs?

Can't you believe without miracles as crutches to your faith?

If there were no so-called miracles, would you still believe? If yes, then why are miracles so central to your religious experience?

Miracles are just special effects props to your cult's recruiting program, concocted in early Christianity, even in OT times, when reading/writing/rational thought/science/education were non existant and magical thinking dominated most people's mental processes, and religion was a method of political/social/tribal control over peoples whose adults had the mental age of today's 7-year-old children, which is about where adults who follow Hagee/Robertson/Caldwell-type demagagues are. Miracles to wow and recruit the simpletons.

What the ever, I stlll enjoy these wonderful archelogical discoveries, which have NO impact on my spiritual life.

You're wrong boutons_, I don't need miraculous intervententions to bolster my faith. The only important 'miracle' is that GOD loved us so much that he gave us a path of redemption through the death of HIS Son. And via this atoning action alone, hope was restored to all mankind. GOD gives us this gift despite the fact that we don't deserve it. That is the one true miracle I base my life's outlook on. Supplemental signs are not required... though they are nice.

This is what is is...'just another archeological discovery'.... and well if it has no spiritual relevance to you... fine. No biggie. Just don't insinuate that those who treasure this finding on another level are somehow being duped.

[boutons_]

If the evangelicals can run aggressive campagins to overturn all of science and force ID/creationism into public schools, I can push back against their "miracle"/Genesis silliness.

[Phenomanul]

If the evangelicals can run aggressive campagins to overturn all of science and force ID/creationism into public schools, I can push back against their "miracle"/Genesis silliness.

Fine, you are en led to do as you please... as long as you do it with substance.... and not just hate.

[1369]

I just read (and re-read) the article, and I can find nowhere in it where "supers ious Irishman" claimed finding the book was a miracle of divine intervention. I do read where he considers finding the book in such a good condition considering its age and where it was found as miraculous (as in astounding).

I know you have a hard on for organized religion boutons, but instead of jumping up and down when anything that remotely smacks if religion is posted, you might want to try and actually read the post first.

[MoSpur]

I think its absolutely awesome.

[Spurminator]

boutons, remember in "Forrest Gump" when Captain Dan lost his legs and he was a really bitter person with no inner peace and he hated everything and made fun of everyone who believed in God and considered them all to be weak and stupid? And then do you remember the hurricane that rocked the gulf coast and how he rode out the storm at the top of the ship and then, as Forrest said, "Cap'n Dan, he made his peace with Gawod"? Remember that?

You remind me of Captain Dan before the storm (but after his legs were chopped off).

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