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Ah yes, the old I am middle of the road and have an open mind thingy.
You got to be kidding me. You need to tell your little story to someone
who might believe you....
Here's an article about Gorelick's involvement.
In light of this, I still find is amazing that she served on the 9-11 commission.
Ah yes, the old I am middle of the road and have an open mind thingy.
You got to be kidding me. You need to tell your little story to someone
who might believe you....
Tell 'em Ray. Your either with us or agin' us.
There is no middle ground.
None of those three assertions are middle-of-the-road beliefs.Tell 'em Ray. Your either with us or agin' us.
There is no middle ground.
1) The legitimacy and prosecution of the war in Iraq are arguable propositions but, holding the belief it is a mistake to be admitted is a liberal, left-wing concoction based on other articles of faith -- like, #2.
2) Liberals can dispute whether Iraq had as many WMDs as we believed they did; or whether they had all the kinds of WMDs of which they were suspected; or whether the WMDs Iraq had were mostly, or entirely, left over from the 1980s and 1990s; or whether the alleged mobile weapons labs really reflected nothing more than Saddam's taking a sudden, and very expensive, interest in weather balloons on the eve of war. But about the fact that Iraq possessed WMDs, there is no doubt. The "total fabrication" canard is completely without merit.
The problem for liberals is that once that basic fact is admitted, and the discussion becomes more nuanced--e.g., old WMDs versus new WMDs--then the discussion also has to include addional facts: that Saddam remained committed to building more WMDs at the earliest opportunity; that he had at his command ample staff and other resources to carry out that command; and that Iraq was moving successfully toward ending the corrupt U.N. sanctions regime, at which point WMD production would have resumed. And, of course, to do that would kind of throw a wrench into the whole article of faith that invading Iraq was a mistake.
3) It's complete conspiratorial, left-wing, nonsense that the President could have predicted the 9-11 attacks to the extent that specific actions could have been taken to prevent them. Name one thing the President could have done, prior to 9-11, that wouldn't have gotten him called a "jack-booted Nazi" in the New York Times?
, his attempts to prevent a second attack have earned just that.
He's earned the le of "Worlds most dangerous laughingstock".
I wasn't a "big" fan of Clinton until Bush showed up. As far as being President, Bush couldn't carry Clintons luggage. Bush destroyed yesterdays future.
By the way, he knew it was about "hijacking planes".
Just and idea.....shut down the airlines until each commercial airliner has an armed officer aboard.
Nope. Bush shuts down airports AFTER the attack. Bush again being held back after class.
You obviously forget the hue and cry that was cause by doing just this -- AFTER the attack.
"it is a mistake to be admitted"
It's not only liberals who see the lies of the WHIG/Repugs. Plenty of independents, centrists, right-of-center, and Repugs see the Repug Iraq war for what it is, a ing disaster that ed up Iraq and made USA no safer, at enormous costs. Watch how many Repugs run this year on the Iraq war, on the Repug record in general, run on dubya's coattails. Not a ing one, because if they did, they know it would be suicide. They are running exclusively on $$pork delivery, gay-marriage, stem-cells, flag-buring, and other issues totally unrelated the smelly pink elephant in the room they try to ignore: Repug war in Iraq.
" "total fabrication" canard is completely without merit."
Bull , the WMD were not findable by UN Inspectors, were stilll not there when dubya's very own searchers looked for them after the invasion. The intelligence was cherry picked, the CIA/NSA doubters of that intelligence were silenced, the decision to invade Iraq was made the the WHIG and everybody better ing go along, evidence be damned. The entire march to war was fabrication on the neo-cons, and a huge distraction from the real war on terror.
"nonsense that the President could have predicted the 9-11 attacks"
No one is saying predicted? what? day? hour? of course not. As usuall totally beside the point. Based on the "airplanes into builidngs, etc" chatter in th months before 9/11, there could have been a huge show of force at airports, unifiorms walking airports and security/boarding gates with weapons, the FBI/CIA ordered to follow up rather than suppress leads (arabs taking flight traing), more/thorogh passenger inspections, etc.
more complete bull . you'r really squirming in your total defeat, YV. And the US public is predominantly not buying the WHIG and YV bull anymore.
The WHIG/Repugs absolutely refused, in their macho hubris, in 2001 to even admit there was any threat. Didn't want to rock the totally false impression that they were in total control. They had achieved their sole objective in getting elected: ram through massive tax cuts for rich + corps as fast as possible after taking office (thereir entire agenda for 2001), and then they basically went on vacation until 9/11.
Brilliant. I see no holes whatsoever with this plan.Just and idea.....shut down the airlines until each commercial airliner has an armed officer aboard.
The only part of this that makes any sense at all is the reference to intelligence suppression. Do you really think in a pre-9/11 world that armed security guards at airports would have stopped men from getting on a plane with box cutters? It's not like we missed a bunch of gangsters boarding planes with AK-47s...unifiorms walking airports and security/boarding gates with weapons, the FBI/CIA ordered to follow up rather than suppress leads (arabs taking flight traing), more/thorogh passenger inspections, etc.
9/11 is something that should have been stopped far in advance of 9/11. al-Qaeda operatives should have never been allowed to enter the COUNTRY, let alone take flight training classes.
And, again, you can thank Clinton's Assistant Attorney General, Jamie Gorelick, for the federal blinders on that matter.
How do you bring people together when some of them are too childish or too gutless to admit the truth?
Unlike some of you, I will not be clutching the good book, thanking God for my president and claiming my life was completely fulfilled while missiles begin to rain down on our heads just because Bush has once again done something foolish.
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