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    And when next season they both go back to playing like they did the last season before they got here and the first one they were here, what will that mean-- that playing alongside Tim Duncan is not so good for other big men after all-- that the Spurs did not know how to use them properly-- that the more the Spurs tried to change their games to fit in with their roles in SA, the worse it got-- that the mind games were not only not effective with either of them but also "detrimental."
    Yeah, we only won a championship and came within .4sec/stupid foul of a 3-peat. We sure didn't know how to use those guys!

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    What mind games did Pop play with Rasho? Rasho was coddled by Pop more than any Spur in team history.
    *cough* Hedo *cough*

    But Rasho did get plenty of love from Pop.

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    Rasho was coddled by Pop more than any Spur in team history.
    Not true.

    True, everyone knows how Pop felt about Rasho as a person-- even saying once he was in love with Rasho-- but that isn't the same thing as being coddled as a player. The public comments about Rasho being in the right place on defense not only came in response to repeated questions about Rasho- but were also true. Pop was just as hard and sometimes even harder on Rasho than other players. He got no hand holding or special treatment or minutes he did not earn. Pop yelled at him plenty, like he does everyone. If anything, Pop would get even more pissed because he believed that Rasho could do more if he would just be more aggressive, and Pop had thought that he would be the one to bring that out in him.
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    Id love to know who was the "Dirk stopper" that was available.
    Ditto. There isn't one in the league, now that Avery's taught him to use his height and go to the hoop instead of staying on the perimeter.

    no matter how well Bowen has played him on occasion, Dirk is going to get his points in most games. You play the Mavs like you play the Lakers and Kobe--concede the superstar a good game and make the other guys beat you.

    If Parker and Manu and Duncan and whoever our Big is can't defend and generally outplay the rest of the Mavs, then we'll lose.

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    Jared Jeffries is the closest to a Dirk stopper who was available in my opinion.

    But he cost too much...so got the Melzer kid, and Eric Williams. Between the two of them hopefully somebody steps up and bothers Dirk a little like Posey and Haslem did for the Heat.

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    Jared Jeffries is the closest to a Dirk stopper who was available in my opinion.

    But he cost too much...so got the Melzer kid, and Eric Williams. Between the two of them hopefully somebody steps up and bothers Dirk a little like Posey and Haslem did for the Heat.
    Why stop Dirk? He's got a great offensive game. Put someone small on him and he backs you down or shoots over you, put someone big on him and he blows right by you. The thing about the Mavs is they have other ways to beat you: namely Josh Howard, Jason Terry, and Jerry Stackhouse. I suggest the Spurs focus on JET, Howard, and Stack to limit their production and stop commiting so much effort to guarding Dirk. I know I'll probably catch for stating this, but it does have presedence.

    Two years ago whenever we played the Suns, we knew that Amare Stoudamire was their most prolific scorer, BUT he wasn't their most productive player because he didn't get others involved; that'd be Steve Nash. So we focused on stopping Steve Nash, limiting the fast-break, and guarding the perimeter. The result was a 40 point game by Amare, but a loss by the Suns.

    I'm not saying we totally slack off of the guy and let him score at will, but I'll say that he's got the size/speed combo to pretty much score at will anyways. So I don't think we need ANOTHER Dirk stopper, because the one we have right now is pretty good, and we should focus defensively on limiting the production of others while not killing ourselves offensively by playing essentially a 4-man offensive team w/ a defensive specialist on the court at all times.

    So, say NO to Eric Williams on the Active Roster and NO to Melzer as the 15th man!

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    Buck Harvey = Kill Joy.

    even if he;s praising the Spurs he has to get in a minimum of 4 jabs.

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    anyone else not happy to hear this kids got at ude problems???

    how much differnece do you think being around Timmy, Manu, Bowen, & Oberto will have on him? (I list those 4 specifically as some of our most stadn up humble guys)

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    Ditto. There isn't one in the league, now that Avery's taught him to use his height and go to the hoop instead of staying on the perimeter.

    no matter how well Bowen has played him on occasion, Dirk is going to get his points in most games. You play the Mavs like you play the Lakers and Kobe--concede the superstar a good game and make the other guys beat you.

    If Parker and Manu and Duncan and whoever our Big is can't defend and generally outplay the rest of the Mavs, then we'll lose.
    The problem is for whatever idiotic reason Pop thinks he needs to change his whole game plan and subs ution pattern to try to stop Dirk.

    Why? It's one of the great mysteries of the 05-06 Spurs, especially considering Pop did exactly what you mentioned about Kobe - shut down the rest and let him get his. We also did it to Amare and the Suns last year.

    But hey, AJ is a great guy and I'm happy for him [/Pop]

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    anyone else not happy to hear this kids got at ude problems???

    how much differnece do you think being around Timmy, Manu, Bowen, & Oberto will have on him? (I list those 4 specifically as some of our most stadn up humble guys)
    The at ude problems don't worry me much. He's still young and impressionable and simply getting out of the storm in NY would be enough to improve anyone's at ude. Getting a guy into a winning situation can work wonders. Rasheed Wallace, while still far from a model NBA citizen, vastly improved his at ude with a change of scenery. If he can do it anyone can.

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    What at ude problems? By all accounts he was the hardest worker on a team of slackers and was the most coachable out of a team too enamored of Marbury-style dribble-n-chuck.

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