Spurs after Bonzi Wells?

[T Park]

As Kori and others have said, other teams can throw together much better deals than Oberto & Barry

We will see won't we.

[Slomo]

He averaged 8 rebounds a game and shot a higher percentage than he had in five years or something.

How is that a bad season?

I'll take his 14p, 8r, 2s per game for just about anyone on the Spurs roster other than the starting 4.

I don't know, those numbers are pretty nice but isn't he supposed to be much better? Isn't one of the more common complains about him that he didn't live up to his contract?

I'll be the first to admit that he was scary good in the 1st round.

I'd take 14/8 from him anyday, just not convinced he'd give them.

[timvp]

The Spurs as an organization hate Bonzi Wells. There's no way in the Spurs are going after him.

No way.

[dimsah]

I would think the Kings would at least want him out of the conference. The only way I see them dealing with the Spurs is that they are dead-set on getting compensation for him, and noone else gives a better offer than what the Spurs are offering.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't know, those numbers are pretty nice but isn't he supposed to be much better?

Not really He's a 30-year-old 6'5 SF. I think the numbers that he's put up in his career are probably about what would be expected.

I'd take 14/8 from him anyday, just not convinced he'd give them.

Well I'd take even six rebounds a game from him if he was playing 30mpg.

But, I still don't think the Spurs will get him.

[timvp]

Bonzi is going to bust with whoever signs him. He was playing for a contract last season. Once he gets his five-year deal, he's going to turn it off and call it a career.

[ChumpDumper]

A couple of factors here.

Bonzi wants more than the MLE, but if the Kings give him that and trade him, they'll probably go over the tax threshold. So they might be looking for a trade exception or, a longer shot, an expiring contract they might be able to buyout at a slightly lower rate. That's why I brought up Williams.

I think the ideal trade for them would be signing Bonzi for about $6 million to start and tradng him for a center that makes less than $5 million. Good luck with that.

[exstatic]

The matchup problems that Bonzi presents on offense are more than offset by his total lack of defense. If you think we had problems guarding Dallas last year, wait until we try with only 4 players.

[atxrocker]

Bonzi is going to bust with whoever signs him. He was playing for a contract last season. Once he gets his five-year deal, he's going to turn it off and call it a career.

that could very well be the case, but i'm not sure i would write the guy off so soon. depending on where he ends up, if he is with a club that has a shot at winning, i would not be surprised to see him step up his game and intensity and be a real impact player. it will certainly be interesting to see where he ends up. surrounded by guys who really want to win and know how, and with proper motiviation he can be a real beast.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs as an organization hate Bonzi Wells. There's no way in the Spurs are going after him.

No way.

Yeah, the only thing this rumor has going for it is the Spurs' habit of pursuing players who own their team in a game or a series.

[Mr. Body]

Barry and Oberto would be good players in the Kings' system. Oberto would give them another good passing post along with Brad Miller.

I don't think the Spurs would take Wells for more than 3 years, especially at 30 already, and I don't think Bonzi is looking for that few years, unless he really wants to play for a contender. The postseason certainly woke him up last year.

Bonzi definitely did not have a bad year last year. Even if he doesn't return to playoff form - where he almost beat us single-handedly - he's still an active player, good shooter, decent defender, and excellent rebounder for his size.

The team seems to think they can take on a head-case here and there. The team atmosphere is calming and stabilizing. Does he mind coming off the bench, though? Can we get him 30 mpg?

A stable Bonzi Wells off the bench would push us over the Mavericks, no question. But I don't see... 1) Sacramento giving him to a rival, 2) the Spurs spending more than MLE-type money for a few years, 3) the Spurs taking on such a big risk. Not a Darius Miles-type risk, but a pretty big one.

[ChumpDumper]

Barry and Oberto would be good players in the Kings' system.

Sure, last year -- I don't know enough about Musselman to say if they would be a good fit in his new system.

I don't think the Spurs would take Wells for more than 3 years, especially at 30 already, and I don't think Bonzi is looking for that few years, unless he really wants to play for a contender.

I guess that depends on the other offers he might have.

[leemajors]

bonzi, stable. does not compute.

[Mr. Body]

If Bonzi is punting to see what money is there for next year and will take like a 2-year deal with the second as a player option, I could see the Spurs doing it for Barry.

[El_Mago]

Oberto, Barry, and anything else...is garbage, especially for Bonzi Wells.

No, GM is enamored with Oberto.

Scola I believe is in negotiations with Tau for a contract extension or already has signed one. Sacramento is probably not really interested in trying to sign another Euro and dealing with buy-out's. Sacramento has already had to deal with one disappointing Euro they drafted that basically said screw them and was content in playing in Europe...in Bodiroga. So, they probably don't want no part of Scola.

Only thing that might be attractive would be Williams expiring contract, but even if you threw in Barry to give some leadership to those young SG's....that still wouldn't be enough for Wells.

The Kings roster:

PG: Bibby, Hart, Douby, Prince
SG: Martin, Garcia, Salmons
SF: Artest, Salmons, Williamson
PF: Abdur-Rahim, Kenny Thomas, Amundson
C: Miller, Sampson, Potapenko

[ABDENOUR POWER]

How many times do I have to tell you people? Bonzi isn't going to SA, because he's going to DETROIT!

Sign and trade Bonzi for:

Carlos Delfino (1 million contract, solid young player with good potential)
Dale Davis (3.5 million expiring deal, solid backup C the Kings are looking for)
1.5 million trade exemption (salary cap relief)
Draft pick(s) - Maybe Detroits #1 this year since they also have Orlando's #1?

Its going to happen. Trust me.

[El_Mago]

Yeah, thats the type of package it will probably take.

Not saying thats the definite package, but a lot better than the Spurs garbage.

[Mr. Body]

The Detroit package is definitely more attractive. I think the Kings want him as far away as possible. I see the Pistons hanging on to that draft pick, though.

E-Williams for Bonzi makes no sense. Why does Sacramento take on useless salary like that? You're essentially generating a wad of cash they have to pay, for no reason.

By all I've heard, Scola wants to come to the NBA and has not signed an extention with TAU. He's expecting to be in the States in the next year or two.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Would he be willing to come off the bench?

[ChumpDumper]

Sign and trade Bonzi for:

Carlos Delfino (1 million contract, solid young player with good potential)
Dale Davis (3.5 million expiring deal, solid backup C the Kings are looking for)
1.5 million trade exemption (salary cap relief)
Draft pick(s) - Maybe Detroits #1 this year since they also have Orlando's #1?

That fits their needs almost to a T.

E-Williams for Bonzi makes no sense. Why does Sacramento take on useless salary like that? You're essentially generating a wad of cash they have to pay, for no reason.

If we pay for most of that wad and throw in some picks or rights, it's more attractive. That way they end up buying the picks or rights for a couple million, maybe less. I agree they could get better deals like the one above.

[Stephen A.Smith]

Would he be willing to come off the bench?

[El_Mago]

By all I've heard, Scola wants to come to the NBA and has not signed an extention with TAU. He's expecting to be in the States in the next year or two.

He can want to come all he wants, but no team is going to deliever the cash.

Until his asking price comes down or that buy-out some how goes away, it's going to be extremely hard for the Spurs to trade him. In a article I read, some GM's were quoted as saying the Spurs were better off trading him away last year or two years ago when his stock was really high. If he does not show up at the WC's....his stock will continue to plummet. However, if he shows up, it might be easier to deal him come All-Star break, but once again, he's asking for a lot and teams are not going to bite.

[furry_spurry]

Well, if we still had Rasho, he would be almost perfect in a trade for Bonzi.

If the Spurs really want Bonzi, they will have to throw in someone like Finley to get him. The Kings have no reason to take on a deal like Willliams' unless they get a real asset to take it. I always love Spurs fans-- they think Oberto and Barry suck but then some team would take them for Bonzi Wells!

I noticed people skipped over this part-- who was saying just yesterday that the analysts all think the Spurs have made great moves this summer:

The Spurs have not improved yet this summer, and time is running out. Eric Williams is hardly an impact player. Matt Bonner is a great locker room guy, but does he make you a better team? Doubtful. Michael Finley is a year older, Robert Horry looked a decade older in the playoffs, and the highly-touted Fabricio Oberto seemed to be join the forgotten men (Rasho, Nazr) on the end of the bench. So it's safe to say the Spurs have not yet made any major improvements.

[ChumpDumper]

I noticed people skipped over this part-- who was saying just yesterday that the analysts all think the Spurs have made great moves this summer:

Quoting a hoopsworld "analyst" who is basically a Rockets message board poster doesn't really help your FO bashing.

[El_Mago]

If the Spurs really want Bonzi, they will have to throw in someone like Finley to get him. The Kings have no reason to take on a deal like Willliams' unless they get a real asset to take it. I always love Spurs fans-- they think Oberto and Barry suck but then some team would take them for Bonzi Wells!

Exactly, it's straight up Garbage.

Anyone who thinks the Kings are dumb enough to take on that trash is dreaming.

However, if those players actually show up this year and are rolling, then the Spurs might be able to dump them before All-Star break, but I highly doubt it.