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    No all that matters is this year, and for now mavs>spurs untill they can prove otherwise.


    So what you're saying, is all that matters is this year, and based on last year (which according to you doesn't matter at all) mavs>spurs.

    Impeccable logic.

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    With the roster turnover and undoubtedly ridiculous rotation Pop will run the first two months of the season, a loss in game 1 is a near certainty. The opponent doesn't really matter.

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    Did anyone else not see that coming? Miami will probably play Cleveland or something.

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    No all that matters is this year, and for now mavs>spurs untill they can prove otherwise.


    The season hasn't even started yet, and you make that assertion! Are you kidding me!? I know its nice that your team won an extremely tight series that could've gone either way, but don't even try to bring that smack around here until MAYBE June of next year. Even at that, the Mavs cannot come close to touching the Spurs' storied history.

    Again, 3 rings and counting. How many does your team have? Bring a good take, please.

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    So what you're saying, is all that matters is this year, and based on last year (which according to you doesn't matter at all) mavs>spurs.

    Impeccable logic.

    I could personally not care any less which team wins the first game of the season, BUT...

    are you saying that last season was irrelevant and this upcomming season is pre determined because the Spurs won 3 rings in the past?

    Following that "Impeccable" logic, I suppose that it will be a Lakers/Celtics Finals, unless those six time champion Bulls pull the upset over the Celtics? LMAO
    Last edited by big3bigD; 08-01-2006 at 02:05 PM.

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    Dallas fans, good luck. It should be a uva game, uva division and conference race. May the best, if not luckiest, team win!

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    Dallas fans, good luck. It should be a uva game, uva division and conference race. May the best, if not luckiest, team win!
    I agree. This next season should be even more wide open than the last one. Both Conferences are completely up for grabs. I expect to see a great NBA season.

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    The conference will belong to either Dallas or San Antonio, and as of now I favor them to win the overall championship as well. Its great to have two league super heavyweights in the same division slugging it out. Every Dallas vs. San Antonio game should be nationally, if not internationally, televized.

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    I think that it will definately be one of those two to win it all this season. I still give the Suns a small chance, but don't consider them a real threat. The East could belong to one of a few different teams. The Heat, Bulls, Pistons, Cavs and Magic all have a chance. As you said though, I can't see any of those squads being strong enough to take out the SW div winner.

    It will be very interesting to watch the Spurs new style of play. I expect Pop to go small more often this season than ever before, and why not? The rules have made the NBA that kind of game these days.

    There's no doubt that all of those Mavs/Spurs games should be nationally televised. That is that easily best and most exciting matchup in the NBA right now. That West Semis series last season was one of the best that I'v ever seen.

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    There are a few unanswered questions regarding the Spurs' lineup next season, but its still kind of early and I like the Spurs' historical track record of getting guys on the same page.

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    I agree. This next season should be even more wide open than the last one. Both Conferences are completely up for grabs. I expect to see a great NBA season.
    ...its not wide open. basketball never is. the Spurs, mavs, heat, and maybe detriot or bulls will win it all. that is all...

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    ...its not wide open. basketball never is. the Spurs, mavs, heat, and maybe detriot or bulls will win it all. that is all...
    I guess that we will have to disagree. The NBA that I've watched for 20 some odd years usually has two or three definate favorites. This season, you, nor anyone else knows who will win the East, and the West has at least three teams that could win it.

    Nobody is entering the season as the heavy favorites to win anything and several teams have a very good chance. That's wide open to me.

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    You mean the Spurs get to watch the Mavs get their Western Conference Championship rings?

    A true Kodak moment!!!!

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    I could personally not care any less which team wins the first game of the season, BUT...

    are you saying that last season was irrelevant and this upcomming season is pre determined because the Spurs won 3 rings in the past?

    Following that "Impeccable" logic, I suppose that it will be a Lakers/Celtics Finals, unless those six time champion Bulls pull the upset over the Celtics? LMAO
    No I didn't say anything of the sort. All I'm saying is that if you're going to discount the Spurs success in previous seasons as completely irrelevant to this upcoming season then it's kind of silly to turn around and talk about the Mavs victory last season as if that's any sort of factor.

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    No I didn't say anything of the sort. All I'm saying is that if you're going to discount the Spurs success in previous seasons as completely irrelevant to this upcoming season then it's kind of silly to turn around and talk about the Mavs victory last season as if that's any sort of factor.

    They don't get it.. and they never will.

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    HAHA you all act like jou have.......flea up your ass. hehehehehehehehe

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    They don't get it.. and they never will.
    LOL.

    We would have to become Spurs fans first, then we would get the secret NBA knowledge that Gervin's Afrro has... LMFAO

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    No I didn't say anything of the sort. All I'm saying is that if you're going to discount the Spurs success in previous seasons as completely irrelevant to this upcoming season then it's kind of silly to turn around and talk about the Mavs victory last season as if that's any sort of factor.
    Oh, then excuse my comments. They were more directed toward the typical Spurs-3, Mavs-0 responses that I have seen so much of and of which I thought that you were a part.

    What you just said is absolutely correct. Either both or neither of those has to be true. You can't look at one team's past without taking the other's into consideration. Neither has much to do with the outcome of the upcomming season though.....

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    There are a few unanswered questions regarding the Spurs' lineup next season, but its still kind of early and I like the Spurs' historical track record of getting guys on the same page.
    I have no doubt that Pop will get everyone together and on the same page next season. I am just curious to watch the Spurs play that small style that they used in the playoffs. I remember a couple of seasons ago, TD got hurt and you guys started scoring something like 115 a game for a while. The Spurs can play some great up tempo ball, they jusy hardly have ever needed to do so.

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    You can't look at one team's past without taking the other's into consideration. Neither has much to do with the outcome of the upcomming season though.....
    The les the Spurs have won are relevant due to the fact that the dominant player who makes it possible is still playing at a consistently high level. Until his stats drops or the Spurs are forced to play a diiferent style, then we can reasonably assume that the Spurs will play well. Throughout the years, even with turnover, the Spurs have shown that they can integrate players into their system.
    Since Avery is in year 2 of his tenure, there is no pattern yet established. Dallas fan can hope that he can integrate the new players. Spurs fan knows that Pop can integrate players on the fly. He has a history of doing so.

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    They drew the Mavs. Sorry Spurs

    lawman huh?

    You outta arrest yourself for impersonating an intelligent poster.

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    The les the Spurs have won are relevant due to the fact that the dominant player who makes it possible is still playing at a consistently high level. Until his stats drops or the Spurs are forced to play a diiferent style, then we can reasonably assume that the Spurs will play well. Throughout the years, even with turnover, the Spurs have shown that they can integrate players into their system.
    Since Avery is in year 2 of his tenure, there is no pattern yet established. Dallas fan can hope that he can integrate the new players. Spurs fan knows that Pop can integrate players on the fly. He has a history of doing so.
    That player is getting old and has a bad foot. You second best player throws himself around so much that he cannot stay healthy. The Spurs teams that won rings were all much younger and better balanced, with Duncan in his pime. Also none of the teams that the Spurs are competimg against are anything like the teams of a few years ago. The Spurs do have an established pattern now of being older and more injured and less talented. The playoffs last season and their current roster show that the Spurs are having to play a different style than before. Duncan was great for seven games against the Mavs, not so hot against the Kings.

    I think that all of the factors combined make any mention of past rings irrelevant to the Spurs future.

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    WOW! good insult! im hurt!

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    Insult? What in ? That the Spurs have won three les in three NBA Finals appearances and that the Mavs choked in their only appearance... that is not an insult; that is plain fact. You can live in denial all you want. Fact is we measure greatness by counting championships and the Spurs have 3 to the Mavs 0. When you run down the list of the greatests franchises in a sport you look at les won, not second round playoff series won.

    Last year, the Mavs beat the Spurs en route to losing in the Finals. Yeah! Congrats on getting second place! No one outside of Texas will ever remember that. All the Mavs proved last year was that they could beat last year's Spurs team. Does that mean they will do it again? Of course not. To assert otherwise is to reveal that you didn't even watch the series.

    The Mavs did what teams have always done to the Spurs after a winning a le. Its not like they pulled off the impossible. The Colts managed to beat the Patriots too, but where did that get them? No where. Like every team that comes in second or worse, the Mavs have to prove themselves all over again just like the Spurs do.

    Good luck in that endeavor. I find it hard to believe that such fortune will favor the Mavs again. Many things went their way that enabled them to reach the Finals. Unfortunately, they missed their chance and will be fortunate to get another one. It could happen, but with the strength out West in SA and Phoenix I think Dallas will have a tough time repeating as WC champs.

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    I find that simple messages work best when I speak to spurs fans

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    The Mavs did what teams have always done to the Spurs after a winning a le. Its not like they pulled off the impossible. The Colts managed to beat the Patriots too, but where did that get them? No where. Like every team that comes in second or worse, the Mavs have to prove themselves all over again just like the Spurs do.

    Good luck in that endeavor. I find it hard to believe that such fortune will favor the Mavs again. Many things went their way that enabled them to reach the Finals. Unfortunately, they missed their chance and will be fortunate to get another one. It could happen, but with the strength out West in SA and Phoenix I think Dallas will have a tough time repeating as WC champs.
    i find this appalling. this guy sounds like he's saying Mavs need to catch up to the Spurs. if you watched the series it was clear who was the better team. Spurs were behind and are falling further behind. when you keep losing to dallas your gonna have to come up with something better than "3 rings." when you compare the two teams it is a fact that Dallas is better than the SPurs are. thats all that matters now. unfortunately beating the Spurs last year still didnt convince some y fans. i guess it will have to take another year............

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