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    Look, Im not advocating this kobe > td, but kobe doesnt have ginobili or parker on his team. It's pretty much a one-man show. He has Lamar Odom.. who expected a team with smush parker and chris mihm starting to go that far.
    That's precisely what he wants "A 1 MAN SHOW". So he can score 61, 81, 91, 101, 201, 301 pts in a game. I betcha he will refuse any offer from the top brass to get him a decent supporing cast.

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    san antonio has matt boner
    which is greater and has more immense powers than kobe, lebron, wade, duncan , and even mj himself all combined
    look for san antonio to repeat at least 10 times wit boner on their team
    On the other hand New York has Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis, Jalen Rose, Quentin Richardson, Nate ( ALL I WANNA DO IS DUNK THE BALL ) Robinson, Jerome James, Jamal Crawford etc and it has got them ahh, errrr, let me check my notes, double checking.......... IN THE DUMPS!!!!!!!!!

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    Duncan is the best player to have on your team. Maybe not the most individually talented, but simply the best player in the NBA. Again, NO TEAM in ANY sport has a better winning percentage than the San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan years.

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    Duncan is the best player to have on your team. Maybe not the most individually talented, but simply the best player in the NBA. Again, NO TEAM in ANY sport has a better winning percentage than the San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan years.
    DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    San Antonio, I'll be there in 2008! SpursWillOwn's Avatar
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    homers! but i agree!!

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    D-Wade is good but not necessarily the best. I mean he got to average that many points in the finals because Dallas had defensively incompetent big men trying to stop his penetrations. Now if they played San Antonio I'm pretty sure D-Wade's ventures into the shaded lane would've been greatly reduced with Bruce Bowen defensive prowess and T.D.'s shotblocking ability.
    The Spurs couldn't even keep Devin Harris, Josh Howard & Jason Terry from getting to the hoop...how do you expect them to keep Wade from getting there Wade would have destroyed them just like he did the Mavs.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    The Spurs couldn't even keep Devin Harris, Josh Howard & Jason Terry from getting to the hoop...how do you expect them to keep Wade from getting there Wade would have destroyed them just like he did the Mavs.

    one big difference between the mavs and spurs. the spurs never choke when things get tough. the reason why miami was so successful against dallas is because riley played a great zone and exposed the mavs as a perimeter team. the spurs stuck with their defense philosophy and got burned by it. Riley adjusted and Pop stuck with his game plan. SA is a at least comparable athletically to the heat but the heat realized to play one on one was not to their advantage. at the end of the day the mavs have a zero inside the lane game. i GUARANTEE you the mavs will face more zones this next year and remain a soft jumpshooting team.. with the exception of the jordan years every NBA champ had a dominant inside low post player.. the mavs have damp and diop..you mavs blew your only chance...

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    one big difference between the mavs and spurs. the spurs never choke when things get tough. the reason why miami was so successful against dallas is because riley played a great zone and exposed the mavs as a perimeter team. the spurs stuck with their defense philosophy and got burned by it. Riley adjusted and Pop stuck with his game plan. SA is a at least comparable athletically to the heat but the heat realized to play one on one was not to their advantage. at the end of the day the mavs have a zero inside the lane game. i GUARANTEE you the mavs will face more zones this next year and remain a soft jumpshooting team.. with the exception of the jordan years every NBA champ had a dominant inside low post player.. the mavs have damp and diop..you mavs blew your only chance...
    What does this have to do with trying to keep Wade from getting to the rim?

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    one big difference between the mavs and spurs. the spurs never choke when things get tough. the reason why miami was so successful against dallas is because riley played a great zone and exposed the mavs as a perimeter team. the spurs stuck with their defense philosophy and got burned by it. Riley adjusted and Pop stuck with his game plan. SA is a at least comparable athletically to the heat but the heat realized to play one on one was not to their advantage. at the end of the day the mavs have a zero inside the lane game. i GUARANTEE you the mavs will face more zones this next year and remain a soft jumpshooting team.. with the exception of the jordan years every NBA champ had a dominant inside low post player.. the mavs have damp and diop..you mavs blew your only chance...
    Does losing at home in OT in a game 7 not consitute choking when things get tough? You call the Mavs chokers and then you explain how the Heat went about beating the Mavs? I don't buy this choking crap, but if you're gonna call the Mavs chokers then you need to call what the Spurs did in game 7 a choke job as well. They had everything going for them after coming back from being down 20pts and flat out blew it/choked in OT. The Mavs choked in game 3 vs. the Heat for sure. After that, they were just beat.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Does losing at home in OT in a game 7 not consitute choking when things get tough? You call the Mavs chokers and then you explain how the Heat went about beating the Mavs? I don't buy this choking crap, but if you're gonna call the Mavs chokers then you need to call what the Spurs did in game 7 a choke job as well. They had everything going for them after coming back from being down 20pts and flat out blew it/choked in OT. The Mavs choked in game 3 vs. the Heat for sure. After that, they were just beat.

    well the mavs got lucky. they shout 17 for 20 in the first qtr and 69% for the half..that's lucky..they managed to hold on to beating the spurs who came back and had the lead with 30 seconds left. history will be unkind to your soft mavs team. if the mavs never get back they will be forever known as chokers....the mavs? they choked away a 2-0 lead in the nba finals.. they aren't tough enough and they blew thier chance...

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    Does losing at home in OT in a game 7 not consitute choking when things get tough? You call the Mavs chokers and then you explain how the Heat went about beating the Mavs? I don't buy this choking crap, but if you're gonna call the Mavs chokers then you need to call what the Spurs did in game 7 a choke job as well. They had everything going for them after coming back from being down 20pts and flat out blew it/choked in OT. The Mavs choked in game 3 vs. the Heat for sure. After that, they were just beat.
    I don't think the Spurs choked. They almost won. They choked the first four games of the series, but the last three they didn't, which was when it was the toughest.

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    well the mavs got lucky. they shout 17 for 20 in the first qtr and 69% for the half..that's lucky..they managed to hold on to beating the spurs who came back and had the lead with 30 seconds left. history will be unkind to your soft mavs team. if the mavs never get back they will be forever known as chokers....the mavs? they choked away a 2-0 lead in the nba finals.. they aren't tough enough and they blew thier chance...
    Sorry, but the Spurs choked twice in game 7...once in the first quarter and then again from after Manu's 3 thru OT when they had ALL the momentum...big time choke job on THEIR court!!

    Going 17/20 in the first quarter had NOTHING to do with poor defense by the Spurs? I see 3 dunks and 2 layups in the 1st quarter. Or did the Mavs just stepp up under the pressure??

    If the Spurs would've gone 17/20 there would've been 10 posts here about "_allas" and $hit like that...

    I don't think the Spurs choked. They almost won. They choked the first four games of the series, but the last three they didn't, which was when it was the toughest.
    How was game 1 a Spurs choke??

    and game 7 wasn't??

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    well the mavs got lucky. they shout 17 for 20 in the first qtr and 69% for the half..that's lucky..they managed to hold on to beating the spurs who came back and had the lead with 30 seconds left. history will be unkind to your soft mavs team. if the mavs never get back they will be forever known as chokers....the mavs? they choked away a 2-0 lead in the nba finals.. they aren't tough enough and they blew thier chance...
    Yeah, the Mavs choked away a 2-0 lead in the finals, but all I'm saying is the Spurs choked away game 7 vs. the Mavs. It is what is, and if you're gonna call the Mavs chokers you have to call the Spurs chokers as well.

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    4. Phoenix (4) 54-28 Look out league. Amare is back.

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    How was game 1 a Spurs choke??

    and game 7 wasn't??
    Ok, Games 2, 3, and 4 were choke jobs. Way to go sherlock.

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    Ok, Games 2, 3, and 4 were choke jobs. Way to go sherlock.
    but not game 7??

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    Ok, Games 2, 3, and 4 were choke jobs. Way to go sherlock.
    roid rage

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    Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that? pussyface's Avatar
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    it is funny to hear a spurs fan talk about how the media is biased in then in the next breath say that Tim Duncan is clearly the best player or whatever, like they dont carry their own obvious bias.
    i would say it is very debatable etc who the best is. i would say lebron james, myself.

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    i was scared as the whole finals...especially wen terry shot that 3 at the end of game 6...dallas is an incerible team....they really dont have much experience so they'll just get better from it....but give miami its credit...they were 4 minutes or so away from a 3-0 deficit and most likely a sweep

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    Duncan is the best player to have on your team. Maybe not the most individually talented, but simply the best player in the NBA. Again, NO TEAM in ANY sport has a better winning percentage than the San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan years.
    Tim Duncan is very talented. He's by far not the flashiest player in the league though. His game works very well, but it's boring.

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    Maurice Ager>Marquis Daniels
    Austin Croshere > KVH
    Anthony Johnson>Darrel Armstrong
    Greg Buckner>Adrian Griffin.

    ya, i wud go as far as calling those improvements.
    Mo Ager is not better than Marquis, he might be 2-3 years from now, but as far as the upcoming year Quis has the advantage. As far as the other players mentioned, yes they are upgrades from last year

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    Dirk Administers THE SHOCKER LEONARD's Avatar
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    Mo Ager is not better than Marquis, he might be 2-3 years from now, but as far as the upcoming year Quis has the advantage. As far as the other players mentioned, yes they are upgrades from last year
    Wow, you've already seen Ager play in the NBA??

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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    Yeah, the Mavs choked away a 2-0 lead in the finals, but all I'm saying is the Spurs choked away game 7 vs. the Mavs. It is what is, and if you're gonna call the Mavs chokers you have to call the Spurs chokers as well.
    Well, there would be a significant difference between the teams inasmuch as the Spurs group that lost last season to the Mavericks has also performed well enough in playoff situations to win an NBA le. It's not a 3 vs. 0 argument; it's a the Spurs got it done when it mattered most, even if they lost a game 7 at home the next season, while the Mavericks still haven't been able to get it done when it mattered most.

    As for the rankings, after the discussions around here for the last 2-3 weeks, I'm surprised the Spurs are even in the Top 20 of anyone who's objective.

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    Well, there would be a significant difference between the teams inasmuch as the Spurs group that lost last season to the Mavericks has also performed well enough in playoff situations to win an NBA le. It's not a 3 vs. 0 argument; it's a the Spurs got it done when it mattered most, even if they lost a game 7 at home the next season, while the Mavericks still haven't been able to get it done when it mattered most.

    As for the rankings, after the discussions around here for the last 2-3 weeks, I'm surprised the Spurs are even in the Top 20 of anyone who's objective.
    true. history does matter so the Spurs can never be labeled chokers with Manu and Duncan on the team. they choked against Dallas but they are not chokers. Plus this is only Dallas' first Finals and the Heat had a mcuh more experienced/talented team.

    Shaq>Dampier
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    Such a true comment. Amare is only 22-23 and people already think he wont come back. If he was 30 or near it I would agree but that isnt the case. .

    Well how old was Antonio McDyess when he had the same injury. He, ironically, played for Phoenix. Penny was still in his 20's and I do not believe he had any symptons of this injury while in Orlando. But his career went downhill once the injury suc bed him, ironically, in Phoenix.

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