Stephon Marbury is the Derrick Coleman of guards.
I'm pretty sure Magic averaged 20/11.
Anyways, Marbury is a more talented player than Miller, but I'd probably take Andre over "Starbury." I mean I can't ever imagine Marbury winning anything unless in his late 30s he's starts hanging off the nuts of a young superstar.
I'd take a lot of players over Marbury, but not Miller and I believe that was the comparison. WTF has Miller ever done? He's much less talented than Marbury and he's on teams that either don't make the playoffs or lose in the 1st round. So basically, it comes down to talent alone. Bottom line, I wouldn't want either of them as my point but would take Marbury over Miller if I had to choose.
The argument is moot. I wouldn't want neither Andre nor Marbury on my team. Andre is good, but he's not exactly the kind of "PG" who who makes a great impact on his team, like the other PG's on that list. Marbury on the other hand is a proven loser. His at ude affects his game way too much.
You have incurred the wrath of JamStone. Prepare yourself to be inundated with stats and comparison.
I'm very familiar with Chauncey Billups as he played a couple years in Minnesota. Many say that he finally found a home in Detroit. He actually found a home here as well. I could make a case that his improved play in Minnesota is what allowed his career to take off as he had a solid 2001-02 campaign after he replaced Terrell Brandon at mid-season. He probably would have stayed in Minnesota had Brandon's injury situation not been up in the air that following off-season.
I hope you're right about James as he's now a Timberwolve. The main things that scare me are his age (31) and that he put up career numbers in a contract year. Many NBA players usually reach their peak at about 28-32 years of age so Mike James' window will close in the next couple seasons. And, that is why Houston, Dallas and Miami were not willing to offer him nothing more than 3 guaranteed years. The Wolves offered him a 4 year deal with a player option for year #4 (which he'll undoubtedly accept) and a 15% trade kicker raise if he's traded. It's definitely a steep price to pay, but that just shows you how desperate Kevin McHale was to land this guy. One thing in James' favor is his confidence, and, that, to me, is a good thing.
I was always really impressed with Billups when he was in Minnesota. When the Mavs played the T-Wolves in 2 consecutive years in the 1st round of the playoffs, Billups played really well in those series. He really outplayed Nash in both those series IMO. The Mavs ended up winning both series but it wasn't from slowing down Billups.
Yeah, you're right. Billups always seemed to play Dallas very well. One of his games that stood out was a regular season game in Dallas in '02 when he scored 24 of his his 36 points in the 3rd quarter of a 117-100 win in Dallas. What's more impressive about that game was that Kevin Garnett missed that game due to a death in the family.
http://www.basketballreference.com/t...0020219&tm=DAL
Unnecessary. The stats refute him themselves.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...johnsma02.html
While close, Magic averaged 19.5 ppg, 11.2 apg.
I know it's splitting hairs, but when you're talking about historic marks, 19.5 is still 19.5 and not 20.0 ppg. That's why what Marbury has done is special. Now, it could very well be the case that by the time Marbury retires that he no longer is above 20.0 ppg or 8.0 apg, but over his 10 year career, currently, it's still something to marvel.
Stephon Marbury is a drug abuser?
Anybody that tries to compare Marbury to Magic doesn't have a clue. Are you ting me? Magic, Oscar Robertson, Archibald, Zeke, Jerry West, Cousy, and Walt Frazier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To try and put him in that group is asinine. I don't give a what numbers he has put up, he sucks because he makes every team he's ever played on worse. The only team he has ever improved is a fantasy team, numbers don't mean when they do nothing to improve a team.
Obstructed View couldn't have been more right, never has 20 points and 8 assists a game been so monumentally inconseqential. That is as dead on the money as it gets, his stats contribute nothing to his team. He may be the worst team player in the league and it is only magnified because he plays the PG position; the position that is supposed to be all about unselfishness is being played by the embodiment of selfish. Stats mean when you make your team worse, he belongs coming off the bench as a 6th man combo guard.
Well he did proclaim that he "was the best point guard in the league" so he must be on something...
Chill out man all he is saying is Marbury is better than Andre Miller.
Like Coleman, he's arguably the most talented person in the league at his position, and also like Coleman, he has no idea how to do anything other than generate his own stats.
Steph does have more enthsiasm for the game.
If you mean enthusiasm as in bickering to the media about coaches and teammates, then yeah, I agree.
I disagree with some points of this article but Ridnour (and not a player like Deron Williams) as a neme for the future is a joke.
Steph wants to play. You couldn't always say the same about Coleman.
You are incapable of understanding or following an argument.
I am not comparing Stephon Marbury to any of those players. I only mention them because they are all time greats and they did not average the stats that Stephon Marbury currently averages. That in no way means Marbury is better than them or at the same level as any of them. I understand that being a great player is more than just stats. It's about basketball IQ, leadership, clutch play, sacrifice, determination to win, as well as all of the tangible things in statistics.
Again, I only mention those greats to show you how impressive Marbury's numbers are. You not understanding that is laughable.
Chris Webber's numbers are as good as Tim Duncan's career numbers, but I wouldn't put Webber in Duncan's class. But, just a look at the stats, Webber is just as good as Duncan. But, clearly, Duncan is arguably the best power forward in the history of the game. And, Chris Webber might be a top 10 power forward in his era. Nonetheless, C-Webb's numbers are impressive even though you cannot mention him in the same sentence as Duncan.
That's what I'm doing with Stephon Marbury. Just comparing his stats to all time greats to show how impressive his stats are, not to say he's as good as they are.
Inconsequential or not, his stats are impressive. And, his talent is undeniable.
LOL, I mean is there a difference? Marbury has also averaged 16.5 FGA (opposed to Magic's 13.2), Marbury has a career FG% of under 44% (opposed to Magic's 52%), and Marbury has 3 fewer assists per game.
Now I know you aren't arguing that Marbury is better than Magic or anything but this "milestone" doesn't warrant some sot of distinction over Magic, Cousy, Zeke, and Jerry West.
Maybe I should have said it would be a toss-up between Miller and Marbury. Because as far as I'm concerned, I see most teams ending up with the same record.
The Nuggets are crap. So stfu.yeh lets put trash before Andre Miller
this listing is crap
i think parker shoulda been like 6 or 7. hes still inconsistant as a 3PT shooter. but other than that, he aint scared of attacking the post
Yes, there's a difference, and that's the point.
Say you're a high school senior and you get a 1190 on your SAT and the college you want to get into requires a 1200 score on the SAT to get in. Now what's the difference between 1190 and 1200 really?? Well, getting into the college of your choice.
19.5 ppg is not 20.0 ppg.
And, as for adding other statistical categories ... why? You're changing the argument, but what does it matter? I just stated that 20 ppg and 8 apg career numbers was impressive. Leave it at that. You disagree. Ok, that's your opinion.
charming
my top 10
1 Steve Nash
2 Jason Kidd
3 Mike Bibby
4 Luke Ridnour
5 Jason Williams
6 Kirk Hinrich
7 Marko Jarich
8 Dan au
9 Beno Udrih
10 Steve Blake
Rascist !
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