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    And yes I was in diapers then...but I can look at the casualty figures and see that...it would have ended on our side eventually.

    I've also met quite a few Vietnamese...and I've never met one that thought we were the bad guys in that war. I've also never met a Vietnamese that's a Democrat either.

    If W had been President we'd have won it...because he wouldn't have been cowtowing to a liberal voting base or been worried about who liked him.
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    Uhhhhh VIA sucks!

    And so do most school boards!

    Oh, and city council!

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    Yoni - Other than Tet, there weren't any battles.
    I would imagine that the men who fought during the siege at Khe Sanh or in the Ia Drang valley would disagree.

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    Whottt, Vietnam was a ed up mess. There were some honorable and patriotic Vietnamese in the ARVN officer corp but the Viet Nam government for the most part was every bit as corrupt as Ex said they were...they stole their country blind and redirected hundreds of million dollars of American aid/supplies to their own pockets. This is a fact.

    As to the casualty figures at Tet...The Viet Cong and NVA had fought a very successful war up to that point with hit and run tactics that were bleeding the will of America to continue on that course. They knew that the Americans had overwhelming firepower and up to that point their military doctrine called for not letting the US concentrate that firepower on large masses of troops.

    The Tet offensive was a POLITICAL decision to send masses of troops into the cities just to prove they could...knowing they were going to suffer large casualtys...but there were huge civilian casualtys as well...we got all those NVA and Cong kills by blowing the out of those cities with American firepower...like trying to treat cancer with a 12 gauge shotgun...we got the cancer but the patient died.

    Tet was the begining of the end. Seeing NVA troops kicking ass and taking names right in the middle of Saigon on the 6 o'clock news after being told for years we were "winning" the war was a real wakeup call for America...for the first time, "mainstream" America started to question if in fact we could actually "win" the war...

    Fron that perspective the Tet offensive was an overwhelming success for the VC and NVA...

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    I think a VIA bus got hijacked to Hanoi.

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    and VIA sucks.



    just say NO to VIA!

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    Buy a car....it's the American way!

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    I got here late.

    Is VIA putting a park-and-ride in Hanoi?
    fuggn hilarious... i skipped a couple posts then all of the sudden the thread was vietnam casualties... too funny!

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