One secular Arab women’s perspective… Must see!!!

[ShackO]

Umm... whottt was arguing for democracy in the Middle East.

I was the one saying they don't want it.

If given a choice of what governments to have, Arabs largely would want Islamic fundamentalist states. More correctly, they would want Islamic fundamentalist states where their own tribe had absolute power.

This idea that everybody picks democracy if given a choice is culturally tone-deaf. It assumes everybody is attuned to the Western notion of the social contract. To people who grow up in the starker strains of Islam, it is blasphemous to think they would decide upon their own laws, since in their minds government belongs to the Almighty. There is no "consent of the governed." There is only submission to God.

South Asian and SE Asian Muslims live in cultures more amenable to moderate governments, as obviously do the Turks. Islam is not the same everywhere you go.

Well said, it has more to do with culture then necessarily religion..

We have seen it happen in North Africa, Egypt and prob going to happen in almost any Arab country were the wackO’s have been allowed to run amuck and kill anyone that does not believe as they do…..

To many ppl see it as a religious “over” reaction and yet the same feelings and at udes towards the USA are prevalent in much of Central and South America where the US has supported some tyrant…….

It seems the longer the aspirations of the ppl are suppressed in this manner the more likelihood of a severe swing the other way when that regime is finally toppled…

[ShackO]

I am for spreading Democracy and Self Government in the Mid-East...and it if fails I am for nuking them off the ing planet....or killing as many "civillians" as it takes to get rid of the fantacism.

I hope you are talking in jest here............

[Phenomanul]

When 'Peace' finally reaches the Middle East, Hagee's wildest dream will have come true because biblically speaking peace will only be attained in the 'holy land' after the battle of Armageddon....

Until then.... all we will hear are, rumors of war, rumors of peace.... rumors of war, rumors of peace.... rumors of war, rumors of peace etc...

Biblically speaking of course....

[ShackO]

Really there is no time when there was not war somewhere on the planet… The middle east has had moments of peace as have most regions have @ one time or another…

I don’t think we have to necessarily be in “the end times” for there to be peace there now… But it surely seems pretty unlikely any time soon………