Is Bush An Idiot?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If he is, what does that say about the pathetic Party that couldn't unseat him? Bigger idiots?

Ah, no. , GW isn't running the White House, his "advisors" are, guys like Rove.

GW is a moron, and because of that he's a perfect puppet for the kingmakers behind the throne whispering in his ear and quietly doing whatever they please. Sheesh, wake up America!? You really believe GW is the one who thought up the brilliant bas ry of the last 6 years?

Why do you think Colin Powell resigned?

[boutons_]

"pathetic Party that couldn't unseat him"

always changing the subect. you ers think anybody still falls , or ever fell, for that stupidity?

rove and head started their Repug re-election war a s"immeidate and only option" so dubya could run as a war president. Even with that scare-'em appeal to the sheeple, he was barely re-elected with the 2nd smallest margin ever for a sitting president.

With no phony Repug Iraq war fooling the sheeple, dubya would have been defeated.

Wasted American military lives are the cost of dubya's re-election.

[ShackO]

Bush is no idiot…. Contrary to how it may look.

IMO his major flaw is his emotion….. Or letting it get the best of him….

Many important decisions he makes are first made emotionally and personally……..

After making these decisions he then seeks the rational justifications necessary from his staff and thus incurring their favor and support for the conclusions he has already drawn.. (Essentially seeking reinforcement for the emotional conclusions he has already concluded..)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ah, brother, I work in government and things don't happen that way.

Every decision is carefully crafted over months/years - nothing is EVER off the cuff then justified later. Govt always knows exactly what it is going to do, then what it will say about it. Rove and his pals worked this strategy out 10 years ago. There is no 'from the hip" about it. And George is just a muppet, he's Kermit to their Jim Henson.

Boutons, thank you for speaking sense.

[jochhejaam]

[QUOTE]

Ah, no. , GW isn't running the White House, his "advisors" are, guys like Rove.

Ruff, every President relies on their advisors, that's the point of appointing them.

Why do you think Colin Powell resigned?

If you have do ented statements from Powell other than the reasons Powell himself gave that were aired by in the news mediums, please post them. Other than his personally stated reasons, every other opinion is merely conjecture. Meaning, your opinions carry no more weight than anyone elses (maybe a hairs breadth more than boutons).

Ah, brother, I work in government

You and millions of others. That makes you a statistic, not an expert or an insider privy to anything more than the rest of us.

[boutons_]

"Many important decisions he makes are first made emotionally and personally…"

In a 60-year-old person whose decisions can and have caused the deaths of 10's of 1000s of innocent people, emotional-only decesions are truly idiocy. He's intellectually limited, stunted, uninterested and ununinteresting. His failure to articulate is actually his inability to ideate. He's just ing dumb as a bag of hammers, and his family's money and the Repug puppet-masteers can't fix that.

[Extra Stout]

Bush is no idiot…. Contrary to how it may look.

IMO his major flaw is his emotion….. Or letting it get the best of him….

Many important decisions he makes are first made emotionally and personally……..

After making these decisions he then seeks the rational justifications necessary from his staff and thus incurring their favor and support for the conclusions he has already drawn.. (Essentially seeking reinforcement for the emotional conclusions he has already concluded..)

Example?

[Extra Stout]

Ah, brother, I work in government and things don't happen that way.

Every decision is carefully crafted over months/years - nothing is EVER off the cuff then justified later. Govt always knows exactly what it is going to do, then what it will say about it. Rove and his pals worked this strategy out 10 years ago. There is no 'from the hip" about it. And George is just a muppet, he's Kermit to their Jim Henson.

Boutons, thank you for speaking sense.

Well... sort of. There are competing agendas, even within a single Administration, and events can change which ones are in ascendancy.

The Bush Administration is roughly on its third general foreign policy strategy in five and a half years.
1) Disengagement -- 1/01 to 9/01
2) Neoconservatism -- 9/01 to 1/05
3) Pragmatism -- 1/05 to present

[DarkReign]

Yes.

Next question...

[cheguevara]

[2centsworth]

Why does Joe Scarborough hate America?

Isn't it interesting that it's a Republican asking the question. Look at Hagel and William F. Buckley who openly criticize their own. However, in the Democratic Party you see a huge backlash against guys like Leiberman.

That's an example of how the Republican Party is a more free thinking party than the Dems.

Bush was never my choice but the dems never gave us a viable alternative.

[2centsworth]

If he is, what does that say about the pathetic Party that couldn't unseat him? Bigger idiots?

Unfortunately so. For the sake of this country the Dems need to step it up.

[Extra Stout]

The biggest reason Scarborough brings this up is that his ratings are in the toilet, and this kind of stunt gets him some headlines and maybe some viewers, so that he doesn't lose his MSNBC gig.

It is not part of some wholesale abandonment of the President by the chattering classes that I can see.

[ShackO]

Example?

sadaam was a target the day he was elected.............. For personal reasons..

WMD's, Democracy??? Please, it was all about the dad.............

[Extra Stout]

sadaam was a target the day he was elected.............. For personal reasons..

WMD's, Democracy??? Please, it was all about the dad.............

There were people in DC planning the Iraq war even before Bush won re-election as governor in Austin.

[Extra Stout]

Unfortunately so. For the sake of this country the Dems need to step it up.

2cents, would you agree that the weakness and the dysfunction of the Democratic Party has compromised the accountability of the Republicans to their cons uents, inasmuch as they have less fear of being voted out of power without a competent opposition party?

[scott]

Isn't it interesting that it's a Republican asking the question. Look at Hagel and William F. Buckley who openly criticize their own. However, in the Democratic Party you see a huge backlash against guys like Leiberman.

That's an example of how the Republican Party is a more free thinking party than the Dems.

Bush was never my choice but the dems never gave us a viable alternative.

I think Lieberman is a bad example, since I think he's always been more concerned about keeping his job than serving his country - but I pretty much agree. There is a reason the Democrats can't manage to beat the political equivilent of the University of Buffalo.

[2centsworth]

2cents, would you agree that the weakness and the dysfunction of the Democratic Party has compromised the accountability of the Republicans to their cons uents, inasmuch as they have less fear of being voted out of power without a competent opposition party?

Absolutely.

[Nbadan]

2cents, would you agree that the weakness and the dysfunction of the Democratic Party has compromised the accountability of the Republicans to their cons uents, inasmuch as they have less fear of being voted out of power without a competent opposition party?

Democrats held onto the South, Texas and the Presidency for decades, does the term yellow-dog Democrat ring a bell? Republicans are in danger of losing their power after just a few years. Look at the state Republican party, there are no young rising stars in the party

[Extra Stout]

Democrats held onto the South, Texas and the Presidency for decades, does the term yellow-dog Democrat ring a bell? Republicans are in danger of losing their power after just a few years. Look at the state Republican party, there are no young rising stars in the party

Here is a prime example of my frustration. 2cents and I are making what is seemingly a simple point about the inep ude of Democrats in recent years leading to the widespread corruption and ineffectuality in the Republican Party (which is fairly likely to lead to loss of Congress), in the absence of a credible opposition to keep them honest up to this point.

Easy point to follow, it would seem. I don't see why a Democrat would argue the point. All a Dem should have to do is nod his head and grin.

But instead, here comes Dan with some mind-numbingly ridiculous point about how the Democratic Party used to be dominant, I guess, thirty or forty years ago. I mean, what the does that have to do with anything?

Just a modi of basic human cognition is all I'm asking for here.

[Extra Stout]

My basic frustration is that no matter how low the Republican bar goes, the Democrats always seem to slide cleanly right underneath it, leaving us with nobody to steer what we hope can remain the world's most powerful nation through some very stormy seas.

[2centsworth]

My basic frustration is that no matter how low the Republican bar goes, the Democrats always seem to slide cleanly right underneath it, leaving us with nobody to steer what we hope can remain the world's most powerful nation through some very stormy seas.

Amen!

[Nbadan]

My basic frustration is that no matter how low the Republican bar goes, the Democrats always seem to slide cleanly right underneath it, leaving us with nobody to steer what we hope can remain the world's most powerful nation through some very stormy seas.

It's time to turn off the wingnut radio for the day and look at some real substance, on all the important issues, domesic, and even the war on terra, it's Democrats who are drawing consistently strong numbers. What the Democratic Party has been weak at is putting like-minded cons uencies together in States that matter, like West Virginia, Tennesse, Florida and Ohio to raise money, do phone banks mail brochures, and attack, attack, attack, you know, all the boring Politico stuff, but the important thing is that Demos have managed to split the corporate money going into campaigns for the mid-terms.

I don't think the question for the mid-terms is whether or not the Democrats will make gains in the House and Senate, but exactly how large these gains will be. Nonetheless, I'm sure most of you saw the editorial in this weeks local fishwrap calling this past session the 'less-than-do-nothing-Congress', very appropriate. Those kinds of things tend to resonate with voters.

[sabar]

Internets. Suicider. Misunderestimated.

While a genius may have problems talking, it sure doesn't help your credibility.

I mean, cmon. Internets.

[DarkReign]

Internets. Suicider. Misunderestimated.

While a genius may have problems talking, it sure doesn't help your credibility.

I mean, cmon. Internets.

Well put.