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    Chump, you don't get it. Bush is not responsible for anything bad that happens because it's someone else's fault.
    Yes it is some one else's fault. Show me where Bush ordered that stuff to NOT be guarded! Show me the proof that Bush ignored the issue of guarding it. Show where he forgot about it. You can't, because it doesn't exsist! Yes, Bush pushed for the war in Iraq. Yes he supports it now. No one is argueing that. This issue should be investigated to who allowed the explosives to go unguarded. I believe step one would be inquiring within the military. You know, the guys actually over there guarding the stuff. If you are going to fault Bush for what you believe are his short commings, at least fault him for things that are of his DIRECT doing.

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    Is Bush the Commander-In-Chief or not?
    Does the buck only stop at Bush if it's a good thing?

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    Is Bush the Commander-In-Chief or not?
    Does the buck only stop at Bush if it's a good thing?
    I said investigate it. See what turns up. What if a theatre commander said the explosives were guarded and then turned around and did not have them guarded. What if they were gone long before the US could secure them? When you get a zit tomorrow morning are you going to blame Bush? I mean he is commander and chief and he could have washed your face for you!

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    This is neither new nor can it be pinned on the Bush administration.

    The explosives were being watched by the IAEA prior to invasion and it was gone after the invasion.

    Hussein could have moved it between the last IAEA observation and invasion or during the invasion. The invading coalition troops went to the site and it was gone.

    That was reported when it happened. This is only being recirculated because it can be spun...

    You people are so gullible.

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    This is neither new nor can it be pinned on the Bush administration.

    The explosives were being watched by the IAEA prior to invasion and it was gone after the invasion.

    Hussein could have moved it between the last IAEA observation and invasion or during the invasion. The invading coalition troops went to the site and it was gone.

    That was reported when it happened. This is only being recirculated because it can be spun...

    You people are so gullible.
    It's all they got left Yoni.

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    Thanks, Yoni.

    I feel so much safer now.

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    Forget the explosives.
    There never were explosives.
    We guarded everything.
    Look at the cute little kitty.

    This distraction brought to you by the Republican National Committee.

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    From the opinions expressed in this thread, I get the feeling some of you think the Republican Guard that was defeated in Iraq was led by Bob Dole.

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    Dan,

    I thought they didn't have any WMD in Iraq... You realize Kerry just hung himself with that one, right?

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    High explosives <> WMD

    Sure could cap off a nuke though.

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    There is no need to spin.
    This one is as clear as day.
    Someone dropped the ball bigtime.

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    Oh, if only Saddam was in power. *sigh*

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    Yes, if only Saddam, he of evil "intentions", were still in "power", successfuly hemmed in by north/south no-fly zones, his industrial/military power emasculated by 13 years sanctions and inspectors, posing no threat to even first-enemy Iran, and certainly no "immediate" threat to USA.

    If only 1000+ US lives weren't wasted in this completey bogus, completely fumbled, "abosolutely necessary" war, along with the wasted lives of 1000's of Iraqi women and children.

    If only $B120+ were not wasted into the sands of Iraq, but put into USA domestic security and finishing the job in Afghanistan.

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    Hussein could have moved it between the last IAEA observation and invasion or during the invasion.

    You people are so gullible.
    Sorry, Yoni-spinner, that won't spin-dry:

    "White House and Pentagon officials acknowledge that the explosives vanished sometime after the American-led invasion last year." NYT today.

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    Check out the Duelfer report, bonbon. Leaving him in power wasn't an option, stockpiles or none.

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    Chump... 380 tons <> WMD?

    One pound of that stuff took down the Lockerbee Pan Am flight way back.

    Just to go "evil" here for a sec, put 20 tons in rental trucks and drive them into the 19 tallest buildings in America, or Europe, or wherever. Still wanna argue that one?

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    So then, every country has WMD.

    When so we attack?

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    Ask Kerry. He's gotta pass out and then grade his global test first, right?

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    Nope, he won't be President.

    Attack them too?

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    The Duelfer reported proved that shrub was totally, deceitfully, willfully wrong that the war on Iraq being immediately and necessarily the ONLY option to dealing with Iraq.

    Inspectors worked. (they KNEW about the 400 tons BECAUSE IT WAS THERE, and also about the 35 tons that went missing while the inspectors were absent) and NOBODY has found anything else "WMD" before or after the war, BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE.

    Sanctions worked. As seen by the dilapidated state of the Iraqi army, the industrial base, and military quipment compared to its state during the Kuweit invasion.

    To remove the threat of the KNOWN 380 tons of WMD material without war, the US had bomb ONLY that site to oblivion, Israel did with the Iraqi nuclear reactor.

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    The sanctions scheme was not sustainable, per the Duelfer report. Hussein was buying influence among UN Security Council member nations in order to get the sanctions removed. Hussein was planning to resume his WMD production once the UN got off his case. Some WMDs don't exactly take that long to produce.

    So instead of taking him out when we could we would have you advocate leaving him in power, free of the sanctions and free to build up his WMD programs again.

    Great.

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    "At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said U.S.-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter, the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity." NYT today.

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