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yes I am really concerned about what is going on in germany today... its like I am really fascinated by EU politics and all their great political systems... NOT!!!
whoa.....Did you see where isolationism got us in WW2?
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
yes I am really concerned about what is going on in germany today... its like I am really fascinated by EU politics and all their great political systems... NOT!!!
Both sides of this debate might use that quote right now.
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B4 WWII, the US, being isolationist, ignored what was going on in Europe, and look where that got us.
B4 WWII, the fascists and appeasers didn't take seriously enough the threat of a radical movement, and look where that got us.
enough with the WWII comparisons! The people who make these are desperate to align these ac tions because of the nobleness of WWII. All we heard from the administration is that this is a war like no other... we are not fighting an army we are fighting an ideology..I agree 100%..so the stop with the f*cking comparisons.. it's either like no other war we have fought or it's like WWII cir stances.. if we are going to compare it to a prior conflict Vietnam is more like Iraq now.. we are fighting with really no exit plan.. we are sacrificing lives for the freedom of others and not ours.. course you will hear the cheerleaders tell us we are fighting for freedom..just not who's..
no matter what the administration says or the cheerleaders claim the majority of American see Iraq for what it is .. not a part of the war on terror... Bush is making a mockery of himself and this country by desperately trying to tie Iraq with war on terror... the only reason cons think it is isbecause Bush said so.. This promotional tour Bush is on which he calims are not 'political' is sad and reeks of desperation..
Did you read thread, or only the le and the last two or three posts?
Anyway, I do believe Iraq is part of the war on terror, if not originally, then certainly now. Terrorists are there. We are fighting them. If we leave, they might win. (You're right: like Vietnam)
And how about this for an exit strategy (the same one used in WWII - not in Vietnam - "Win, then leave")
GGA:
I agree with your sig. Newspapers are better than govt.; damn near everything is.
"if not originally, then certainly now"
Finally admitting that the WHIG reason "Saddam = WTC = terrorist " really was a lie, as even dubya admits. At least this is some "progress" about Iraq.
The NVA/VC could, in their home country, under no pressure to leave, and did wait until the US lost the will, after 50K military lives wasted in VN, to keep wasting the US military.
The same waiting game now is true of the very powerful Iraqi Shiite Sadr and Badr militias, neither of which existed until the US invasion created them. They are primarily fighting the Sunnis in a full-blown civil war, rather than fighting the US. Any non-Iraqi terrorists weren't in Iraq under Saddam and any who are there now because to of the USA sitting duck are still not suffiicent reason for tying down the entire US military in an unwinnable quaqmire.
The domino theory in S/E Asia was bull , and the domino theory is in the M/E is bull .
The WWII analogy, including the facile appeasement slime, is worthless. The European countries had long histories of stable governments that could take over when the war was over. Iraq had nothing and still has effectively nothing similar to replace the US when it departs.
Bush has claimed that if we leave they will follow? who? the iraq insurgency? so we could read into what bush is saying that our troops are now bait?
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