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Brad Miller was on team USA???
as what? ballboy?
I'm not hating on them. Realy you are not that long in here....
I do frickin care. He is from the NBA duuh yes I'm an NBA fan. And I know waht Iver would bring to this team. AndI'm not gonna explain it to ya since you have your own great and fantastic mind
Brad Miller was on team USA???
as what? ballboy?
This is too easy...
^^^I thought you said you are an NBA fan?
^^^Again, I thought you said you are NBA fan?
^^^Poland not in it anymore? You sure sound like a HATTTTEEERRRRRRRR!
I do not like usa TEAM much. But I do not hate them. But sometimes I just want to angry some of the posters here. But you don't know that.
On some quotes I was saying about the leauge. You've got to admitt there is too much comaplining to the refs! And the "pussies" made is stronger.
btw. who likes a guy like Anthony?
IS he even gonna play for the bronze? he have the bromze from the olypics already....excuse me he had
But If you wnat me to say that you just owned me then I can say. no!
Team USA rebuilds a new team every year from scratch. Give these guys a few months together and throw them into the mix with 7-8 exhibition games with no experience against some opponents and can contend for bronze in a whole different system.
That alone proves NBA>FIBA. What was the last team totally rebuilt in one year in the NBA that made it to the semifinals with 2 months time playing together and no time playing other teams?
If they do this, how could Spurs play for team USA if the have a lot of international players?
The NBA does have a lot of crybabies but so does FIBA. I don’t know of too many sports or leagues where the players don’t complain about calls.I do not like usa TEAM much. But I do not hate them. But sometimes I just want to angry some of the posters here. But you don't know that.
On some quotes I was saying about the leauge. You've got to admitt there is too much comaplining to the refs! And the "pussies" made is stronger.
btw. who likes a guy like Anthony?
IS he even gonna play for the bronze? he have the bromze from the olypics already....excuse me he had
I actually didn’t like Carmelo until I watched him play for Team USA. He has given 100% and has represented the USA very well.
Well I was hoping you would sack up and admit to getting owned but oh well.But If you wnat me to say that you just owned me then I can say. no!
I was not owned - but whatever.
Ps. I feel bad now. I'mand
NBA and FIBA are two different games. To sum it up, one is still a sport and remains a team oriented game where the other is a (great) show with very little beside individual skills. On top of that the gap is widening due to simpler and simpler NBA coaching (due to the rule, see bellow)
Everything in the NBA is made to be a show: rules, refs, the 3 pts line, defensive rules, ... That make for a great entertainment but not (what I call) basketball anymore. Remember that John S. and Karl M. kind of ruled for more than ten years on pick and roll... Of course they were great but you'll never see that with FIBA's basketball because the success lies in team work (mainly because the defense is so much better, cf. no limitation on the defensive side).
As u can imagine from my post I favor FIBA's ball over NBA's but I have a (quite) good knowledge of both games and I can explain why when most of critics around here just don't know FIBA but for the world's championship (and some don't even seem to know that the Olympics are played under FIBA's rules)... Sad... U have to know something to be legit to critic it... And not only in basketball for what matters.
My two cents.
yeah and plus someone could kill themselves tryin to pronounce some of the european players names....
and its stupid how u can take the ball right off the rim in FIBA
WOW what a smart man!!!
Let me share some thoughts:
I think that this thread is a provocation.
Here are my thoughts:
1.- Look NBA has the best players on earth with the exception of 20 players who play in Euroleague who maybe will not be top stars here ( It is a fact, fact ).- Who in the would like to play for a couple of hundred thousand bucks per year ( Average money in EUROLEAGUE ) when you have a minimum of almost a million in NBA and average salary are 3 million???
2.- FIBA National teamS learned from US coaches and then practiced and so on ( Argentina played in the Olympics with a Flex that was invented by Hubie Brown ) The pick and roll that killed USA today is the ABC of basketball, anywhere. USA Basketball plays only ing isolation, that is Rucker Park not Basketball. Anyway, I REALLY doubt that Greece can beat the Spurs in 7 games. The Spurs and some other teams ( Not many ) play with strategy and knowledge.
3.- Officiating in FIBA is dangerous, you can loose a match with those es ( Argentina has been stolen a couple of times ) In NBA ( With the exception of the 3rd and4th match serie with mavs. ) i never seen a ref that can turn the match outcome. They are better, much better. Terry Moore who is NBA and FIBA is very cool in FIBA matches.
Those European refs. are terrible and localists. ( See Euroleague ).- I hate them and I see them very "mafia" kind even for FIBA standards.- Remember that as Argentinean I see our local FIBA league and refs. are not these kind of criminals. Australian, Uruguayan and Brazilian are also good refs.
FIBA should do something with officiating.
Anyway, USA lost because they could not guard a door today. Greece is good but it is not the epitome of good offense in FIBA, they are defenders.
Running fast is good but the ball can go faster. Using the brain could be good. It makes me remember the first time Nocioni played vs. Le Bron James in NBA, he called him "LeBronze" and "Poco Seso" that means something like "small brain"
I liked what I've seen from Anthony, Wade, Hinrich, Howarth and Joe Johnson during tournament.
Just my 2 cents.
gus
Fiba Coaching > Coach K
Greece 101, US 95
By ANDREW BAGNATO, AP Sports Writer
September 1, 2006
SAITAMA, Japan (AP) -- As they warmed up before Friday's semifinal against Greece, the U.S. players put on a jam session for the fans.
Dwight Howard dunked emphatically. Dwyane Wade bounced the ball off the backboard, caught it and stuffed. Elton Brand jammed an alley-oop pass. Finally, LeBron James flew down the lane for a tomahawk.
As the crowd roared, the Greeks lined up at the other end and shot free throws. The moment foretold Greece's 101-95 victory in the semifinals of the world championships.
The U.S. has dazzling skill; the Greeks are a dazzling team.
"We have to learn the international game better," U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski said. "We learned a lot today because we played a team that plays amazing basketball and plays together."
Yup but take a look at the olympics. The same situation.
maybe if they had gunners? Cuse they had an inside presents in TD.
a few thoughts of mine...
1. To anyone now saying "See what happens when you cut Bruce Bowen!!!!!" - you are a ing asshole. period. Hearing people about how much better Team USA would have been had they kept Bowen is like being bukakked with stupid*. The results would have been identical if Bowen was on the team. Shut the up.
2. I don't know if one is greater than the other (FIBA vs. NBA), but there is a telling sign....NBA players are having to adapt to play international ball, and not the other way around. When they refuse to play a more fundamental style of basketball, they lose. International teams aren't the ones trying to figure out how to play basketball more like the NBA.
3. the whole "all those teams have played together for years!" argument is total bull . Pau Gasol isn't practicing with his buddies on the Spanish team all year, he is in America 8 months out of the year. Same with Ginobili, Nocioni, every other international NBA player, etc. The remainder of the guys on these teams are playing in other European basketball leagues around the continent. They get together for the World Championships and the Olympics exactly the way the U.S. does. The fact that they all were the same team two years ago makes no difference. If you disbanded the Dallas Mavericks, let them go play for other teams for two years, and then brought them back together, would they have the same chemistry that they had two years ago? No, and it would take months for it to redevelop. They have no more team chemistry than Team USA did. They just take it a little more seriously, and have alot more pride in what they do, and are FAR LESS ARROGANT, than the U.S. team has in the past decade or so.
*a stolen line, i know.
actually, every national basketball team (besides the US) wants to win the FIBA championship more than the olympics. The US is an anomoly in holding the olympics in higher regard than the FIBA championships.
FIBA = more made free throws, more made 3 pointers, and no traveling
No, no there are similar. The Olympic is more elusive because only 4 teams have won it. (US; URSS; YUGOSLAVIA -without USA- AND ARGIES )
thats some funny
Fact, Coach K is a ty coach who would never beat anybody if he didn't pay off ACC refs to get home court advantage on the road. Why the is a college coach coaching NBA players? Quite a few never even went to college! Everything USA basketball promised to fix didn't get fixed. WHERE ARE THE ROLE PLAYERS? WHERE ARE THE SHOOTERS? WHY DID YOU CUT THE BEST ROLL PLAYER WHO CAN SHOOT 3s?
One last thought:
Let's see if any of the Euroleague team beat the NBA in OCTOBER -NBA EUROPE-, and then let's compare again FIBA vs. NBA.
A thought: it won't happen.
Gus
wtf are you talking about?
I saw a lot of traveling called against TP and Manu (which was legit), but not very many others who were also traveling.
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