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    you should volunteer to go to Iraq
    Why?

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    There have been no terrorists attacks on U. S. Soil in 5 years.

    The despotic regime of Saddam Hussein, and all the attendant problems that came with over a dozen years of post cease fire tension, was brought to an appropriate end.

    The oppressive government of the Taliban was brought to an end, uprooting and causing al Qaeda to scamper like roaches.

    What's left of Al Qaeda's upper management team is on the run or in hiding -- or, possibly dead. Just when is Osama bin Laden gonna make another video??

    Thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of terrorists have been killed or captured.

    Dozens of terrorist plots have been thwarted due to the vigilance of our National Security Agency and the effectiveness of their intelligence gathering techniques in spite of media efforts to ruin them.

    I don't remember the percentage but a poll, released this morning, show that a ridiculously high percentage of Americans have the luxury of saying September 11, 2001 did not change their life at all.

    And, all this has been accomplished in the face of an enemy that wants us all dead and a opposition political party that has done its damnedest to undermine the President's foreign policy prerogatives and conduct of our response to global terrorism...without offering what they would have done differently.

    I'd say, stay the course and keep doing what we're doing.
    If I call a pest control expert over to my house to exterminate the roaches, I don't really care if he's fixed my leaky sink, killed half the roaches in the place, and pointed out that I haven't seen a roach in a few minutes. He sure as hasn't done the job we needed him to do.

    I'm pretty tired of hearing that we haven't had an attack since 9/11. How long had it been since we experienced an attack of that magnitude before on American Soil? Longer than 5 years, thats for sure.

    The point is that no one is arguing that this country is completely safe at this time and continously pointing out that we havne't had an attack in 5 years is pretty damn irrelevant and misleading. How many people thought our terrorism security needed work on 9/10?

    The important questions to ask are did something happen yesterday, but CAN something happen TOMORROW. And is there anyone here that can look me in the eye and tell me it can't?

    We have a short memory. It is very clear to me that we've forgotten many of the lessons we learned right after 9/11. Our leaders are back to their ways of playing games in DC instead of getting things done. On one side you have people like Yonivore who feel that this administration has done well when it is very obvious to most that it has done very poorly. I'm fairly confident that we won't be seeing any new heads on Mt. Rushmore contrary to foolish predictions. And then you have the SA210's who are more interested in granting amnesty and impeaching Bush than realistly moving forward and fixing the damn problems.

    You see the best in the people of this country after tradegys. I saw them after Katrina, and I saw them after 9/11. But people have short memories, and both have faded already. Its going to take many more tradegys before the people here learn their lessons for good.

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    Seeing as he's probably in Pakistan, that could be a problem. Our polictal ally there is a military dictator whose regime could be in danger if we invaded at this time -- perhaps if we hadn't gotten sidetracked by another military dictator who used to be our boy in the mideast....We might not like the outcome of a popular uprising in Pakistan.
    I see your point but someone there has tipped off OBL before. Personally, I don't care what has to be done...just get it done. Maybe that is unrealistic or cruel or biased of me but this guy planned out a vicious attack on American soil. We are the most powerful nation in the world...I say we show it.

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    I see your point but someone there has tipped off OBL before.
    The best we can hope for is that greed for the reward will cause someone to give us the coordinates for a cruise missle strike.
    Personally, I don't care what has to be done...just get it done. Maybe that is unrealistic or cruel or biased of me but this guy planned out a vicious attack on American soil. We are the most powerful nation in the world...I say we show it.
    We did....in Iraq....

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    The best we can hope for is that greed for the reward will cause someone to give us the coordinates for a cruise missle strike.
    I can't resist, didn't Clinton have these coordinates once?

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    We did....in Iraq....
    I don't think we have done enough to find OBL. Just my .02

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    I completely agree, but any chance for overt military action in Pakistan to finish off AQ was squandered when we invaded Iraq for more dubious reasons.

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    I agree Chump.

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    I can't resist, didn't Clinton have these coordinates once?
    Didn't you want to quit playing the blame game and concentrate on what to do now?

    Let me know what the sports radio guy's answer is.

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    Didn't you want to quit playing the blame game and concentrate on what to do now?

    Let me know what the sports radio guy's answer is.

    You seem to have a real problem with me there little fella, how come? I know you are obviously extremely witty and intelligent what with a name like "chumpdumper" but I just don't see what your problem is. You said that the best we could do was hope for a cruise missle attack and I threw a jab out there. Are you the only one allowed to do this because if you are, let me know and I'll never say anything to you again.

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    Didn't you want to quit playing the blame game and concentrate on what to do now?

    Let me know what the sports radio guy's answer is.
    Furthermore, what's wrong with quoting a sports radio guy? This is a website dedicated to the Spurs ya jackass.

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    Hey, I'll point out hypocrisy when I see it. If you have a problem with that, don't be a hypocrite.

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    Furthermore, what's wrong with quoting a sports radio guy?
    For someone who created a thread to complain about a poster's quoting other sources, it's riotously entertaining.

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    Hey, I'll point out hypocrisy when I see it. If you have a problem with that, don't be a hypocrite.
    Fine, but I can't sit back and let stupid things be said by you and not point it out, even if it does make me a hypocrite.
    So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, you'll keep being an idiot, and I'll keep pointing it out.

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    For someone who created a thread to complain about a poster's quoting other sources, it's riotously entertaining.
    I complained about a poster ONLY QUOTING OTHER SOURCES and never having a thought of his/her own. Come on Chumpdumper, you're better then that.

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    Fine, but I can't sit back and let stupid things be said by you and not point it out, even if it does make me a hypocrite.l
    I have no problem with that, hypocrite.

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    I have no problem with that, hypocrite.
    Then we are through, jackass.

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    I complained about a poster ONLY QUOTING OTHER SOURCES and never having a thought of his/her own. Come on Chumpdumper, you're better then that.
    That's pretty much what you have done along with asking other people their opinions and offerring none of your own. What's the difference?

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    Then we are through, jackass.
    I seriously doubt that.

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    That's pretty much what you have done along with asking other people their opinions and offerring none of your own. What's the difference?
    I've come up with my own opinions, and I've tried to promote healthy conversation and debate through the questions I've posted so that I can hear other people's opinions on certain subjects. I've posted two articles from Steve Czaban and thought of some other questions on my own. The difference being that people like Croutons just spew out long drawn out articles from un-reputable sources and pretend they are facts while not listening to anyone elses opinions. I've had my personal opinions on certain subjects changed just by reading others thoughts and arguments on this very website, something that I seriously doubt Croutons can say because he doesn't care what others write, just what he posts.

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    Calling him Croutons is unoriginal.

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    I seriously doubt that.
    Ok, I've replied with dignity and no cheap shots, now can we be through? But seriously, you had to know someone was going to go and run with the cruise missle and Clinton thing, I just beat them to it.

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    Calling him Croutons is unoriginal.
    That's true, and I never cited my source because frankly, i don't remember who the source was.

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    Calling him Croutons is unoriginal.
    Are you and BOUTONS in love? I mean, do you like like him, like as in more then friends?

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    Ok, I've replied with dignity and no cheap shots
    So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, you'll keep being an idiot, and I'll keep pointing it out.
    Then we are through, jackass.

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