Top 5 QB's Today

[tlongII]

i agree, but he is not better than Palmer, McNabb, and Brady, imo. i got him at 5 in my rankings (post #2).

The top 5 are all damn good. I can't argue too much although I think he is better than those guys.

[Slinkyman]

Right now David Carr is your number 1 rated passer

[tlongII]

Right now David Carr is your number 1 rated passer

That's over 3 games.

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Check ulative stats over the last 3 years. You will see I'm not kidding. Hasselbeck is a great QB.

they are ok. above average. last year is the only real good year. but he doesnt have many wins to show for those stats. they also play in the ties division in football.

tom brady has better stats, and 3 SB wins to show for it. McNabb has just as good of stats (but a MUCH better TD to INT ratio), and also is a consistent winner. and neither of them have ever had the luxury of someone like Shawn Alexander behind them.

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That's over 3 games.

and they are 0-3. stats mean nothing without wins.

[johnsmith]

and they are 0-3. stats mean nothing without wins.

Just ask Dan Marino.

[leemajors]

Just ask Dan Marino.

why all the marino hate? dude was an incredible qb who never got the benefit of a good running game. he didn't ever get back to the super bowl, but he is still nonetheless easily top 5 all time.

[johnsmith]

why all the marino hate? dude was an incredible qb who never got the benefit of a good running game. he didn't ever get back to the super bowl, but he is still nonetheless easily top 5 all time.

I just never liked how he would always throw his [insert offensive position here] under the bus and rarely took responsibility for any of his losses. I agree, he was an incredible talent but I was glad he never got back to the big one soley because of the reason I stated.

[Zunni]

Who do you rank as the top 5 QB's in the league today?

My list...

1. Tom Brady - 3 SB Wins, 2 SB MVPs, 10-1 in the playoffs... the guy is a pure winner, and knowing how to win is what matters most for a QB.

2. Donovon McNabb - Most regular season wins of any QB since 2000, 4 NFC Championship Appearances, 1 SB Appearance, and can light up any defense with both, his passing and his running.

3. Peyton Manning - Best passing QB in the league, and possibly may be end up as the best passing QB of all time, but unfortunately he is also the biggest playoff choker in the league as well. In terms of passing skills, hes by far the best in the business, but has only 1 Championship appearance, and got completely owned, and took far too long to get his first playoff victory. Leadership skills are a big question with him as well.

4. Carson Palmer - I may be ranking him a bit high, considering he has only had 1 great year, but it was a of a year. He has a lot of potential, and may possibly be the most well rounded QB in the league, as he can pass with pinpoint accuracy, has a rocket arm, is big and can avoid rushes well, handles pressure well, has athletic ability to run when needed.

5. Michael Vick - Many people consider him overrated, but the guy is an incredible talent, and has done many great things in the league. He may not have great passing stats, but he wins games, and has proven that his team is absolute garbage without him. He probably creates more problems for opposing defenses than any other player in the league. He may not be a great passer, but that doesnt mean he cant pass. If teams dont respect his passing abilities, he will make opposing secondaries pay the price.

Vick doesn't belong on the list. He's an option pass-throwing halfback. When you turn him into a thrower, he gets exposed. If he were going to turn into a QB, he would have done it already.

[JamStone]

Pretty much agree with basically everyone:


1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Carson Palmer
5. Matt Hasselback

[johngateswhiteley]

Pretty much agree with basically everyone:


1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Donovan McNabb
4. Carson Palmer
5. Matt Hasselback

everyone is dumb, then. cause Palmer and McNabb are better than Manning. what has Manning ever won...? McNabb has been there (SB) and does more with less every year and Palmer, you can just tell, is SOLID. Cincy probably wins it all last year if does not get a cheap shot in the knee. Manning is a choke artist.

[Marklar MM]

roths! ha ha, you're funny.

I would still take Roth over Hasselback.

[John_Madden]

1. Brett Favre
2. Brett Favre
3. Brett Favre
4. Brett Favre
5. Brett Favre

[ducks]

brett favre sucks

[johngateswhiteley]

1. Brett Favre
2. Brett Favre
3. Brett Favre
4. Brett Favre
5. Brett Favre

Favre is the best QB of all time, and probably still in the top 10 in the league now.

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I just never liked how he would always throw his [insert offensive position here] under the bus and rarely took responsibility for any of his losses. I agree, he was an incredible talent but I was glad he never got back to the big one soley because of the reason I stated.

thats the same problem with Peyton. Hes a choker, blames other teammates, etc...

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Vick doesn't belong on the list. He's an option pass-throwing halfback. When you turn him into a thrower, he gets exposed. If he were going to turn into a QB, he would have done it already.

well, IMO, what matters most about a QB is getting your team wins. and Vick gets his team wins. and it has been proven that without him, the Falcons are garbage. in the year he broke his leg, they were something like 2-10 without him, and 3-1 with him. he has done something no other team has done before, in beating the Packers at Lambeau Field, and did it very convincingly. he has also gotten the team to an NFC Championship game. the guy makes plays. he is not a good passing QB, there is no question about that. hes a very average passer. but he makes plays, and leads his team to victories. thats what matters most about a QB. not throwing TDs and high completion percentages (see Manning and Marino... great stats, isnt winning/never won ). Vick is not known to be a choker either. he often makes big plays at big times, and is by far, one of the best playmakers in the entire NFL.

and cut him some slack. his reciever crew has always been pretty crappy, except for Crumpler, although hes a TE. if he had a guy like Marvin Harrison, or at least a well balanced WR crew that can make catches and get open, he would likely be a much better passer. its hard to make throws when your recievers are too crappy to get separation, or make catches.

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Favre is the best QB of all time, and probably still in the top 10 in the league now.

do you really think he is the best QB of all time?

[bigzak25]

I see mark brunell gets no love...

[dirk4mvp]

everyone is dumb, then. cause Palmer and McNabb are better than Manning. what has Manning ever won...? McNabb has been there (SB) and does more with less every year and Palmer, you can just tell, is SOLID. Cincy probably wins it all last year if does not get a cheap shot in the knee. Manning is a choke artist.

So it was Manning's fault Vanderjadgt missed a ing FG? And Ben made a miracle tackle? I see. Everything's bright now.

[Spurs rock]

Daunte Culpepper

[johngateswhiteley]

do you really think he is the best QB of all time?

yes.

[johngateswhiteley]

So it was Manning's fault Vanderjadgt missed a ing FG? And Ben made a miracle tackle? I see. Everything's bright now.

no. but he gets some blame for the first half of the game. he should have put his team in a better position than down 21-3 entering the fourth.

btw, why the is everyone on vanderjagt's case for missing that field goal? it was not a chip shot, a 30 yarder, or a 40 yarder...it is 46 yards!!! thats not easy. besides, manning did not even show up till the fourth, someone should have told him they play 3 quarters nowadays.

finally, i am not saying Manning is not a great QB, cause he is. he's just not as good as the top 3. and he is a choker...

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yes.

im just curious why you put him ahead of guys like Montana, Elway, Young, Brady, etc...?

[dirk4mvp]

no. but he gets some blame for the first half of the game. he should have put his team in a better position than down 21-3 entering the fourth.

btw, why the is everyone on vanderjagt's case for missing that field goal? it was not a chip shot, a 30 yarder, or a 40 yarder...it is 46 yards!!! thats not easy. besides, manning did not even show up till the fourth, someone should have told him they play 3 quarters nowadays.

finally, i am not saying Manning is not a great QB, cause he is. he's just not as good as the top 3. and he is a choker...

happens.

49 TD's ain't bad though