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That would involve you having consideration for other posters, and we all know THAT'S not true.
Nah, it's just that we didn't want to interrupt the masturbation thread you guys have going.
That would involve you having consideration for other posters, and we all know THAT'S not true.
From the "year late and a dollar short" file:
Hastert requests criminal probe of Foley
By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writer 15 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - House Speaker
Dennis Hastert requested Sunday that the Justice Department conduct an investigation into former Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record)'s electronic messages to teenage boys — a lurid scandal that has put House Republicans in political peril.
"As Speaker of the House, I hereby request that the
Department of Justice conduct an investigation of Mr. Foley's conduct with current and former House pages to determine to what extent any of his actions violated federal law," Hastert, R-Ill., wrote in a letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales....
....In his letter to Gonzales on Sunday, Hastert asked the Justice Department to investigate "who had specific knowledge of the content of any sexually explicit communications between Mr. Foley and any former or current House pages and what actions such individuals took, if any, to provide them to law enforcement."
The scope of the investigation, Hastert wrote, should include "any and all individuals who may have been aware of this matter — be they members of Congress, employees of the House of Representatives or anyone outside the Congress."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061001/...essman_e_mails
Not the Republican's best moment.
That pretty much sums up the last 5 1/2 years.
Oh, and after Hastert throwing him under the bus after covering for his ass for a year, I smell a tell-all book coming.
More headaches ahead over this scandal for the GOP...
Eleven GOPers Fingered in Foley Cover-Up
By Justin Rood - September 30, 2006
Roll Call's John Bresnahan reports:
TPM MuckrukerAs of Saturday evening, nearly a dozen House GOP lawmakers and staffers have acknowledged that they knew of the initial batch of non-sexually explicit messages from Foley to a 16-year-old former House page, some of them for a year or more. These include Hastert <(IL)>; Majority Leader John Boehner (Ohio); National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (N.Y.); Reps. Rodney Alexander (La.) and John Shimkus (Ill.); Mike Stokke, the Speaker’s deputy chief of staff; Ted Van Der Meid, Hastert’s counsel; Paula Nowakowski, Boehner’s chief of staff; Jeff Trandahl, the former Clerk of the House; and another Hastert aide and Alexander’s chief of staff, according to public statements and GOP insiders.
Meanwhile, look for the Hastert-backed investigation to go after the person who leaked Foley's IM's to ABC News (it will be Clinton
Talking Point MemoSeems reasonably clear to me. The reptiles want the FBI to investigate ABC’s sources and see if they can find any Democratic Party and/or liberal interest group involvement in the IM leaks. A probe would also help intimidate any other potential whistleblowers who might be out there . . . (“If you know what’s good for you kid, you’ll keep your old emails to yourself.”)
It certainly doesn’t have anything to do with going after Trandahl, who after all is one of the House officials the Republicans claim never saw the sexually explicit messages. If the FBI were to find out that he DID see them, it would bring the nasty stuff closer to Hastert and Co.
Like the one's you guys have when you talk about Bill Clinton?
October suprise??
Hastert will not be speaker much longer.
I think what the Democrats are overlooking is that it is apparent they and their media cohorts knew about this scandal and for quite a while and, at the expense of Foley's victims, decided to wait until the mid-terms to bust him.
In my book, whoever is responsible for withholding this information is guilty of aiding and abetting Foley in his predatory practices.
Again, the ONLY Yoni defense of Repugs is:
"The Dems are just as ty as the Repugs. The Repugs are just as ty at the Dems"
How long? Link?I think what the Democrats are overlooking is that it is apparent they and their media cohorts knew about this scandal and for quite a while
Soon, Yoni will accuse the dems of planting the penis.
Ah, he's just saying the St. Pete Times had the ambiguous emails. BFD.
He's republican, so he's more concerned about the leak than the act.
The question isn’t whether or not Foley is a lowlife pervert who belongs in jail. He does.
The question isn’t whether the House leadership did a good enough job with the Foley case when it came to their attention. They probably didn’t.
The real question is if Democrats or the MSM sat on these allegations for months with the knowledge that children were at risk on the Hill thanks to stalker Foley.
Foley is s and deserves to be prosecuted, as does anyone who knew of his sexual interest in children and decided to not to take the story to the authorities, thereby putting other children at risk.
Ask and ye shall received....
I'm not sure how long but, these caught my eye this morning.
Foleygate?
Same e-mail...
Or, not?
Wild Bill explains the differences between these altered images.
Just Barking Mad came to the same conclusion.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that this story is looking very strange right about now.
RedState reports that these news organizations knew about the Foley emails in 2005:
It's starting to look like the only ones who didn't know about the extent of the scandal were Republicans. Is this just democrat desperation?
Does anyone else smell something fishy?
How did ABC get all of that followup information before the story broke? How long were they holding on to this information? How many democrats knew about this but, rather than protecting the Congressional pages from a suspected predator by reporting the information, sat on it until election time? What was the collaboration between the democrats and the media, this time?
We also know that there are different Congressional pages involved here. One is the page who worked in Representative Alexander's office. Another page exchanged instant messages in 2003 with Foley and these messages are just now being reported.
Flopping Aces has much more.
Ray Robison compares and contrasts coverage of democrat vs. republican scandal.
Pajamas has a roundup of reaction.
The Blotter put up their latest Foley messages. It sounds like Foley was in a relationship with this page:
Here's a good article on the mess...The FBI says it has opened a "preliminary investigation" of Foley's e-mails. Federal law enforcement officials say attempts by Foley to meet in person could cons ute the necessary evidence for a federal charge of "soliciting for sex" with a minor on the Internet.
In another message, Foley, using the screen name Maf54, appears to describe having been together with the teen in San Diego.
Maf54: I miss you lots since san diego.
Teen: ya I cant wait til dc
Maf54:
Teen: did you pick a night for dinner
Maf54: not yet…but likely Friday
Teen: ok…ill plan for Friday then
Maf54: that will be fun
Foley and the Blame Game
In the article, Clarice Feldman mentions the website that started it all. Stop Sex Predators came on line in late July with one post announcing its intention to “serve as a clearing house for the public to report sex predators and as a resource for concerned parents and citizens.”
The next blog post wasn’t until August 17th where the writer listed in a rather desultory manner some more notable sex predators. After that, two posts on August 26, including this curious item:
How much more, indeed. The fourth and last post for the entire month of August was a cut and paste from Wikpedia of the Gary Condit affair. More “political predators” on a site dedicated to sex predators in general? Why?
This brings us to September and what could be construed – if one had a su ious nature – as a “build-up” of sorts to the Foley emails.
After a short post giving a link to a safety website on 9/2, there is another Capitol Hill sex story about an issue that stirred the blogs a bit on 9/4; the “skintern” culture on the Hill that saw young women dressing provocatively in order to get ahead.
Then comes a post on 9/21 that mentions Foley for the first time:
Why would anyone notice this blog? It has posted nothing original in its short existence. The rare postings means that it has not built up any audience whatsoever. The first Technorati reference to the blog is from two days ago. Even a Google search doesn’t show it on the first 10 pages when searching for “Stop Sex Predators.”
And yet, 3 separate people who had contact with Congressman Foley somehow found this website independent of one another and supposedly sent emails to the owner of this site to complain about Foley’s inappropriate behavior.
Possible? Yes. Probable? I’ll let you decide.
The question is, are they real emails from real former pages and interns? Does this sound plausible to you?
All three emails sent independent of one another naming the same Congressional pervert? That is really stinking up the smell test.
Finally, we get to the emails sent from Foley to the former Page. These are the emails that the House Republicans knew about and, after investigating the situation, ordered Foley to stay away from the boy and have no more contact outside of official Congressional duties. This was posted last Sunday, 9/24 – a full 5 days before the story broke:
The emails are blurry – probably faxed and not, as the author claims, emailed. But the question is how did they migrate from an incredibly obscure website into the mainstream media? This is indeed a mystery. It is possible that an opposition researcher could have Googled “Foley” and found the tiny website. But search engine rankings being what they are, that would have had to have been one dedicated oppo researcher to find the emails on Stop Sex Predators, a blogspot blog with virtually no posts and zero incoming links.
Here’s ABC News on the genesis of the story:
Instant messages not emails. As ABC makes clear, there are two different stories. The question is, how many sources?
CREW is a liberal public interest group funded by George Soros and seems to have its fingerprints all over this scandal.
I'm sure this was done for maximum political damage to Republicans, of course. And I would hope that some enterprising reporters and bloggers out there will ferret out the details of this story and bring to light everything that needs to be known.
Tom McGuire, doing what he does best, lays out what we know about this website and has some more information on how the former page’s emails migrated from SSP to the mainstream press:
The River City Mud Bugle has even more backstory:
So the Kos Kids acted pretty responsibily under the cir stances for which they should be praised.
Come to think of it…if the Kos Kommunity wasn’t buying Foley as internet stalker, maybe you liberals out there would like to explain to me why the GOP leadership should have been more skeptical about Foley than their most rabid opponents?
There you go Chumpy, keep yourself busy...
Yeah, I already found all that on my own.
Nothing really helps your boys out. Too bad for you.
Where was I trying to claim it "helped" my boys out?
It merely questions the timing and motives of the Left and further, illuminates the cooperation between the Left and the media in these matters.
I've already stated, as I did at the beginning of the last post. Foley should rot in . But, so should anyone (regardless of political stripe or status in the media) who knew this information one day longer than when they reported it.
Ah, the vast left-wing conspiracy theory.It merely questions the timing and motives of the Left and further, illuminates the cooperation between the Left and the media in these matters.We'll remember you said that.I've already stated, as I did at the beginning of the last post. Foley should rot in . But, so should anyone (regardless of political stripe or status in the media) who knew this information one day longer than when they reported it.
Yep. I'd love to hear your theory on all these dots that point to just such a conspiracy.
Please do.
Yep, Yoni's more concerned about the leak.
Okay, for the mentally challenged.
#1) Foley is gone and I'm glad. I hope they are able to put his ass in prison for the rest of his days if it is concluded he had sex with a minor or non-consensual sex with an adult. Period. As of right now, I'm satisfied he's out of Congress and that he's being investigated.
#2) I would be in favor of forcing any other Congressman or Senator -- regardless of political party -- to resign their office, be criminally prosecuted, and imprisoned if they are found to have known about these allegations before-hand, for any length of timem, and not reported them to the proper authorities.
Finally, and in it's proper order of importance to me personally, #3) I would be interested to know if Congressional Democrats conspired with the media to withhold this information until it was politically advantageous to them to do so.
Why do I think the leak and conspiracy are important even though I didn't place them ahead of 1) getting Foley out of a position through which he might continue the behavior and 2) finding out who else know and punishing them?
Because, if this was held by Congressional Democrats and the Media until a time when they would benefit politically, that is a reprehensible disregard for the well-being of the young pages in Foley's office and I think voters deserve to know their political heroes place their own interests over those of a child or young adult.
What is so hard for you to understand halfbake? I think I've stated these three priorities in this order on more than two occassions already.
It must drive everyone nuts that Yoni has a well thought out argument to every thing every person attacks him with. It's almost like clockwork that one of you will eventually throw out a bad insult towards him because you run out of ideas. Or you can do the traditional chumpdumper thing and say "where's your proof", or his other go to line, "typical right wing".
Where's your proof of my using that line?typical right wing
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