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Once again placing the blame on somebody else without taking any responsiblity for what is happening NOW.
^^Hey GGA, who made the deal with NK for the nuclear power plant? And
who condoned it and let it go through?
Once again placing the blame on somebody else without taking any responsiblity for what is happening NOW.
Who is allowing them to proceed today? can we talk about today ray? your unecessary war time president has tied our hands due to his liberation experiment gone awry. Are you going to answer the question as to what the other Presidents did?
Our hands are tied? What the does Iraq have to do with us dealing with NK? Are you saying we should be invading NK right now but since we are in Iraq we can't? How about bombing NK? Is that what you think Bush should do? You don't just bomb a country thats capable of leveling Seoul or possibly Tokyo if its ever attacked.
What should Bush have been doing and what should he be doing now? I'd love to hear your answer to that question.
It is clear that Bush hasn't done enough and you tell us since you've all got the answers to everything except the Foley scandal.
Don't answer a question with another question just because you don't have any idea what to say in response to his question.
Seriously, what could we possibly do in regards to North Korea if we weren't in Iraq?
Well, it is apparent you don't have an answer either Mr. Smith. But it is clear to me that NK is the real threat to our security but I'm sure Dumbya and Rice-a-roni were not informed.
Well, it is apparent you don't have an answer either Mr. Smith. But it is clear to me that NK is the real threat to our security but I'm sure Dumbya and Rice-a-roni were not informed.
Oh Dear God, you are a moron. Of course I don't have an answer, that's why we are asking the question. Note to self, JohnnyMarzetti = worthless. Got it.
Not really much either.
Our responses are limited by their potential to put missles into Tokyo and Seoul.
I think we should just withdraw from the Korean penninsula altogether.
It would make the South Koreans happier, and they can defend themselves anyways.
I blame North Korea.
"to put missles into Tokyo and Seoul"
M.A.D., which is exactly why Iran is so dangersous, since Iran's (non-nuclear) missles can reach Israel and significant parts of Western Europe, as well as rail down on US military installations in Iraq and other Gulf States.
I'm just curious what it is you think Bush should have done. Short of attacking their nuclear facilities and starting an all out war on the Korean Peninsula, I can't think of anything the administration should have done but didn't.Thanks for our current sitting president who has done nothing because he's been too pre-occupied with Iraq to pay attention to the REAL danger that is North Korea
You mean the power plant with the light water reactor that couldn't produce bomb material and was never finished being built?
Where did you hear that from?
No worries. "W" is on top of it.
George W. pulled Bandar aside.
"Bandar, I guess you're the best asshole who knows about the world. Explain to me one thing."
"Governor, what is it?"
"Why should I care about North Korea?"
Bandar said he didn't really know. It was one of the few countries that he did not work on for King Fahd.
"I get these briefings on all parts of the world," Bush said, "and everybody is talking to me about North Korea."
"I'll tell you what, Governor," Bandar said. "One reason should make you care about North Korea."
"All right, smart alek," Bush said, "tell me."
"The 38,000 American troops right on the border." ..."If nothing else counts, this counts. One shot across the border and you lose half these people immediately. You lose 15,000 Americans in a chemical or biological or even regular attack. The United State of America is at war instantly."
"Hmmm," Bush said. "I wish those assholes would put things just point-blank to me. I get half a book telling me about the history of North Korea."
"Now I tell you another answer to that. You don't want to care about North Korea anymore?" Bandar asked. The Saudis wanted America to focus on the Middle East and not get drawn into a conflict in East Asia.
"I didn't say that," Bush replied.
"But if you don't, you withdrawl those troops back. Then it becomes a local conflict. Then you have the whole time to decide, 'Should I get involved? Not involved?' Etc."
At that moment, Colin Powell approached.
"Colin," Bush said, "come here. Bandar and I were shooting the bull, just two fighter pilots shooting the bull." He didn't mention the topic.
"Mr. Governor," Bandar said, "General Powell is almost a fighter pilot. He can shoot the bull almost as good as us."
Bob Woodward
State of Denial
2006
It's no secret. You could Google "agreed framework" and probably find a synopsis. The light water power plant was our bribe to them to not make heavy water plants, along with fuel oil shipments. Neither side lived up to the agreement.
I honestly wasn't trying to be a there, I was curious about it.
I'm not saying the Agreed Framework was a great idea. I just wanted to clear up the power plant detail. Whatever fissible material that goes into NK's bombs did not and does not come from a US built or financed reactor.
Chump, your thoughts?
If you read the Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.-North_Korea_relations
you would learn lots of things. In particular, that Clinton's policies were succeeding, at least keeping things from getting worse. BushCo, in his infinite wisdom, decided that Clinton's policies were not good enough and that it was better to antagonize NK ("Axis of Evil") and show little if any commitment to the 1994 agreement.
BTW, since we never signed a peace treaty with North Korea I am pretty sure this violated the terms of the cease fire signed over 50 years ago...
So for all you libs who don't understand how this works, see: Iraq, when we drop the hammer on their asses and poor innocent civillians start dying, and the libs whine about our unilateral policy, just know, we signed a cease fire with them, not a peace treaty. A cease fire isn't a peace treaty...and NK is in violation of the cease fire and therefore the war is ours to start at any point, if we choose to do so, just like Iraq.
And I also feel sorry for the idiots that draw moral equivalancies between us and North Korea...one country is one that people die trying to get out of, the other is one people die trying to get into...figure it out, bags, and develop an unre ed sense of right and wrong.
It would be interesting to see what the South Koreans want. They have a much different at ude towards the north, and their sympathy towards their relatives up there could lead to a certain naivete or wishful thinking about NK's government. It is noteworthy that Kim's main fear is the US, not the south. I haven't been following Kim closely, but I never hear him make declarations about taking over the south the way, say, Iran makes declarations about destroying Israel. In short, RG may be on to something here. It's not like we wouldn't be close enough to help out from the sea or Japan if it came down to it. I don't have a clear enough line on Kim's intentions to give a definitive answer, which I suppose is a vote for the status quo.
Since when did the US care so much about treaty's?
Sincerely,
Native America
What is Bush's plan? He says NK testing is unacceptable. What is the plan?
He's known for years NK was close to testing a nuclear weapon. What is his plan?
It has been said that NK has a choice of having a future or NOT having a future if they did the test. What is the plan?
what do the killing of innocent Iraqis have to do with North Korea and our unilateral policy? By the way you must be proud of the way things are going in Iraq.. The well thought out post war plan is what impresses me the most.
Hey whott the US isn't perfect and there are some people who share this great earth that feel they should have the right to do whatever they want within their own boundries.
I once heard that if you carry the big stick you must only use it when necessary and even then find a way of not using it.
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