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    it is working in cal where they have it


    build it high and deep and then shot the people that try to cross
    I bet that solves the problem
    I did not now this disgusting side of ducks

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    it is a big ing waste of money... the only thing that would stop people is having armed guards every 50 feet that shoot on site... and that is a big waste of manpower, time and money too..

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    "it is working in cal where they have it"

    No, the San Diego and other fences AREN'T working.

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    I don't support it. It is just wasting money, it's not like it's gonna stop anything. Heck I like illegals. Mainly because they do their jobs and rarely bout it if they are paid well and treated well . Why the heck wouldn't you? I mean, americans about how they can't get jobs because of the Illegals, but they are offered jobs of the sort that illegals usually take, and then say "Oh the pay is not good enough" or "The conditions are too harsh" or BS like that. Try going and getting paid $5 a day for 6 days a week in Guatemala! Or living in Ethiopia where there are NO jobs to take! Or sometimes they will about that is part of life and then sue their boss because "he didn't give us copius amounts of water" and "I'm allergic to asphalt or whatever the you are using" and like that. I mean, there is a such thing as sucking it up and not being a pussy about the water not tasting like beef or some gay like that. I mean, where has the COMMON SENSE and THINKING FOR YOURSELF gone?

    I'll tell you where it's gone......it's gone to your waistlines. You're getting fatter and dumber and more wasteful than ever, and that's why people don't like you! You think you can think for yourself, but why do you dumbasses have all these new laws like the patriot act and gay stupid dumb like that? it's because the vast majority of your god damn nation can't distinguish between normal, abnormal, and su ious activities, AND you can't think for yourself! You Government has to do it for you! There is something WRONG with this picture! That is why when I am done with my semester at UA-Alaska (yea, I transfered), I am ing back in canada. You americans are so stupid sometimes it makes me want to vomit my guts out. I compare it a lot to What Yoni's sig says: "after a day with interacting with americans, I feel like I have wasted a day trying to reason with poo flinging monkeys. And the next day, they will be exactly the same, and I wonder why I waste my days with them."

    American values these days are ed up.......of course the rest of the world's is, too, but your's is bad because you all are so rich....

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    the only thing that would stop people is having armed guards every 50 feet that shoot on site... and that is a big waste of manpower, time and money too..
    Not if you hire Mexicans.

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    so you suggest they spend my money on paying themselves and instead of trying to protect the boulder

    how would you solve the problem?
    How is it a problem? Is the immigrant going to steal that job you were gunning for? Minimum wage, picking in fields and no bathroom breaks?

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    it is working in cal where they have it


    build it high and deep and then shot the people that try to cross
    I bet that solves the problem
    Maybe the Native Americans should have done that to your ancestors when they came to the US.

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    His prediction for how illegal immigrants would deal with the wall: "They will get ladders made out of mesquite and climb it."
    Best part of the whole article.

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    The "Fence" as we were lead to believe is not going to happen


    No sooner did Congress authorize construction of a 700-mile fence on the U.S.-Mexico border last week than lawmakers rushed to approve separate legislation that ensures it will never be built, at least not as advertised, according to Republican lawmakers and immigration experts.

    GOP leaders have singled out the fence as one of the primary accomplishments of the recently completed session. Many lawmakers plan to highlight their $1.2 billion down payment on its construction as they campaign in the weeks before the midterm elections.

    But shortly before recessing late Friday, the House and Senate gave the Bush administration leeway to distribute the money to a combination of projects -- not just the physical barrier along the southern border. The funds may also be spent on roads, technology and "tactical infrastructure" to support the Department of Homeland Security's preferred option of a "virtual fence."
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15149231

    and more from the local level
    Border fence won't happen, GOP lawmaker says

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    Oct. 3, 2006 02:28 PM


    WASHINGTON - Sen. John Cornyn, a Texas Republican and key liaison to the White House on immigration, said Tuesday that 700 miles of fencing approved by Congress will probably not be built because of a lack of money and other practical considerations.
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...ence03-ON.html


    Even if they built 700 miles it would still leave 1300 miles. We need to put the Military on the border, maybe after Bush, Cuts and runs in IRAQ.

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    I don't see why you guys are so hot to destroy the construction, restaurant, hotel maintenence and government official nanny industries in one fell swoop.

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    I don't see why you guys are so hot to destroy the construction, restaurant, hotel maintenence and government official nanny industries in one fell swoop.
    Obviously that's not the purpose of the wall. Futile or not, it's being built (or not) for security purposes.

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    i don't know if it's good or bad idea, but it sure looks like an expensive one. i'm glad it's not my money.

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    Obviously that's not the purpose of the wall. Futile or not, it's being built (or not) for security purposes.
    Security purposes? How so?

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    Enforce the borders with our military if necessary. We MUST stop the illegal immigration before we become Northern Mexico.

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    I don't support it. It is just wasting money, it's not like it's gonna stop anything. Heck I like illegals. Mainly because they do their jobs and rarely bout it if they are paid well and treated well . Why the heck wouldn't you? I mean, americans about how they can't get jobs because of the Illegals, but they are offered jobs of the sort that illegals usually take, and then say "Oh the pay is not good enough" or "The conditions are too harsh" or BS like that. Try going and getting paid $5 a day for 6 days a week in Guatemala! Or living in Ethiopia where there are NO jobs to take! Or sometimes they will about that is part of life and then sue their boss because "he didn't give us copius amounts of water" and "I'm allergic to asphalt or whatever the you are using" and like that. I mean, there is a such thing as sucking it up and not being a pussy about the water not tasting like beef or some gay like that. I mean, where has the COMMON SENSE and THINKING FOR YOURSELF gone?

    I'll tell you where it's gone......it's gone to your waistlines. You're getting fatter and dumber and more wasteful than ever, and that's why people don't like you! You think you can think for yourself, but why do you dumbasses have all these new laws like the patriot act and gay stupid dumb like that? it's because the vast majority of your god damn nation can't distinguish between normal, abnormal, and su ious activities, AND you can't think for yourself! You Government has to do it for you! There is something WRONG with this picture! That is why when I am done with my semester at UA-Alaska (yea, I transfered), I am ing back in canada. You americans are so stupid sometimes it makes me want to vomit my guts out. I compare it a lot to What Yoni's sig says: "after a day with interacting with americans, I feel like I have wasted a day trying to reason with poo flinging monkeys. And the next day, they will be exactly the same, and I wonder why I waste my days with them."

    American values these days are ed up.......of course the rest of the world's is, too, but your's is bad because you all are so rich....

    Yeah, we are so damn dumb that you want to go to our
    Universities. We really are dumb because we let you.

    Tell me all about your most wonderful country of Canada.
    I lived there for four years and talk about laws....WOW!
    They had a female mayor in Ottawa who couldn't crank out
    new laws fast enough, all liberal BS. Like if you splashed
    someone with the numerous potholes in the winter that
    was walking on the sidewalk, they could take your license
    number and make you pay for the cleaning of their
    clothes. Or the great idea of a green belt.....wonder if
    they ever got that done....I doubt it.

    Yep, go to Canada and good riddance.

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    "it is working in cal where they have it"

    No, the San Diego and other fences AREN'T working.
    Better check your stats again. It is working and illegal
    crossings are down in SD area.


    Also, do you know how many emergency rooms have closed
    in California because of the illegals. Hospitals couldn't
    absorb the cost and remain in business.

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    I don't see why you guys are so hot to destroy the construction, restaurant, hotel maintenence and government official nanny industries in one fell swoop.

    I know this is a joke, but I agree, let them come over, just so as long as they continue to mow my lawn and take care of my flower beds, I'm fine with it.

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    I know this is a joke, but I agree, let them come over, just so as long as they continue to mow my lawn and take care of my flower beds, I'm fine with it.
    You know you are putting out one of the biggest mis-conceptions.

    No one wants to stop immigration. Just the illegals coming
    across. What is so hard to understand about that.

    Another thing, you may want to look around at some who
    take care of people's yards. Many are Anglo. So there are
    those that will do the work other than illegals.

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    You know you are putting out one of the biggest mis-conceptions.

    No one wants to stop immigration. Just the illegals coming
    across. What is so hard to understand about that.

    Another thing, you may want to look around at some who
    take care of people's yards. Many are Anglo. So there are
    those that will do the work other than illegals.

    I know what conception I'm putting out there. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the guys working on my yard aren't here legally, so again, keep 'em coming...........oh, and most of the anglo's are their foreman/crew chiefs/etc.

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    my friend is a former Border Patrol Agent from San Diego, in his words "You just park and they come to you"

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    You know you are putting out one of the biggest mis-conceptions.

    No one wants to stop immigration. Just the illegals coming
    across. What is so hard to understand about that.

    Another thing, you may want to look around at some who
    take care of people's yards. Many are Anglo. So there are
    those that will do the work other than illegals.
    But why do you want to stop the illegals? No one has even touched on answering this question. And why through such drastic means as a $2 billion wall?

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    But why do you want to stop the illegals? No one has even touched on answering this question.
    How else would you suggest we discern the terrorists, criminals, and violent gang members from those that just want to make a better life for themselves?

    There isn't any other way other than exerting control over the entire border. Period.

    And why through such drastic means as a $2 billion wall?
    Anybody remember the price tag for two one-hundred and ten story buildings in lower Manhattan, its occupants, furnishings, and capital? How 'bout the price of lost revenue in the Travel and Service sector after 9-11?

    $2 Billion dollars is a bargain if it means stopping the terrorists from coming across our Southern Border.

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    $2 Billion dollars is a bargain if it means stopping the terrorists from coming across our Southern Border.
    What about our Northern Border? You know, the same border that most of the 9/11 hijackers came across.

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    If the $25B+ / year FBI/NSA/CIA would do their jobs aggressively, professionally, with tools they had before 9/11, there would have been a very good chance that 9/11 would have been aborted.

    The fence is not going to cost $2B but many times more that, and all the people directly involved along the border think its a bad idea. The fence is pure electioneering bull , just another Rove talking point parroted by the Yoni's and other right-wing bots.

    FBI/NSA/CIA/etc get $2B+ PER MONTH.

    The Repug DHS fiasco gets $3B+/month

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    How else would you suggest we discern the terrorists, criminals, and violent gang members from those that just want to make a better life for themselves?

    There isn't any other way other than exerting control over the entire border. Period.
    So when are we building the Canadian fence?

    Anybody remember the price tag for two one-hundred and ten story buildings in lower Manhattan, its occupants, furnishings, and capital? How 'bout the price of lost revenue in the Travel and Service sector after 9-11?

    $2 Billion dollars is a bargain if it means stopping the terrorists from coming across our Southern Border.
    considering thats what we are spending per week in Iraq, yeah I guess it is a bargain.

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