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    When're we gonna see those $4/gallon gas prices?
    When we capitulate to Osama, you'll be paying $6/gallon. One of his beefs is that we get oil too cheap.

    I don't know why the oil situation is all Bush's fault. People have been saying for years as the fossile fuel supply decreased, oil prices would go up. There's even predictions that by 2050 or so the oil supply will be exhausted.

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    1. adjusted for inflation oil is very cheap...

    2. I have yet to hear anyone say that Osama was dead.

    3. why does mouse think he is jim rome saying rack all the time?

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    I'm still waiting for Dan to say it in his own words... 20,000 dead just to get Osama is an acceptable result.

    Psst, Dan, you may want to check out how Russia killing the leader of the Chechnyan rebels worked out for them (hint: attacks DOUBLED after he was killed).

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    When we capitulate to Osama, you'll be paying $6/gallon. One of his beefs is that we get oil too cheap.

    I don't know why the oil situation is all Bush's fault. People have been saying for years as the fossile fuel supply decreased, oil prices would go up. There's even predictions that by 2050 or so the oil supply will be exhausted.
    Who's gonna capitulate to Usama? It didn't seem to me like Bin Laden had crawled out of any spider hole to make that video to me. In fact, he seemed in reasonably good health. Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't Usama say he attacked us on 911, but there has never been a link between Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and 911 established? So why are our troops bogged down in a Iraq civil war while the perpetrator of 911 is living the high life in Pakistan or some other God forsaken country again?

    It's absurd for you to insinuate that John Kerry would capitulate to Usama while George Bush has basically capitulated the search for this mad-man as 'unimportant'.

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    1. adjusted for inflation oil is very cheap...
    Yes it is, but this nation runs on subsidized oil. It keeps our homes warm, our thirsty cars running, cheap food on our tables, reasonably priced clothes on our backs, and most importantly our society at a over-exorbant population level. Any disruption in the flow of oil would have disasterous effects on the population of the world and the population of the U.S. A valid argument can be made that subsidized oil will someday be our own reckoning

    2. I have yet to hear anyone say that Osama was dead.
    Then you haven't been here long.

    3. why does mouse think he is jim rome saying rack all the time?
    Mouse is mouse, and your always gonna know how Mouse feels. This time, he just happens to be right.

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    Who's gonna capitulate to Usama? It didn't seem to me like Bin Laden had crawled out of any spider hole to make that video to me. In fact, he seemed in reasonably good health. Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't Usama say he attacked us on 911, but there has never been a link between Iraq, Saddam Hussein, and 911 established? So why are our troops bogged down in a Iraq civil war while the perpetrator of 911 is living the high life in Pakistan or some other God forsaken country again?

    It's absurd for you to insinuate that John Kerry would capitulate to Usama while George Bush has basically capitulated the search for this mad-man as 'unimportant'.
    if you call hiding 24/7/365 and being able to eat well living the high life you have extremely low standards...

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    if you call hiding 24/7/365 and being able to eat well living the high life you have extremely low standards...
    And how do you know any of that is true? For all we know Usama could be back in Saudi Arabia living the life of a monarch.

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    Yes it is, but this nation runs on subsidized oil. It keeps our homes war, our cars running, food on our tables, clothes on our backs, and most importantly our society at a over-exorbant population level. Any disruption in the flow of oil would have disasterous effects on the population of the world and the population of the U.S. A valid argument can be made that subsidized oil will someday be our own reckoning.
    The US is the most productive and resourceful country in the world. We will find a way if the time comes.

    Then you haven't been here long.
    just because some posters in a forum think osama was dead doesn't mean it is gospel. and just because you said, i think he is alive is nothing. i'm sure the majority of the united states thought he was alive.

    and no, i haven't been in here long. forum is pretty cool though. everyone says what they think...gets blasted or praised and moves on... no mods banning you for every little thing. nice site.

    Mouse is mouse, and your always gonna know how Mouse feels. This time, he just happens to be right.
    i was referring to his use of the term, "rack" taken from jim rome.

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    And how do you know any of that is true? For all we know Usama could be back in Saudi Arabia living the life of a monarch.
    osama is not out wild in the streets or you would know about it... that would be a sure election loser for bush if osama was so brazen to come out of hiding and walk in the streets...

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    The US is the most productive and resourceful country in the world. We will find a way if the time comes.
    Then we had better quit in around with subsidized oil cause this is a catastrophie that isn't gonna go away by just ignoring it and continuing to live our vida locas.

    We need a responsible energy policy that doesn't involve invading other countries for their oil wealth and our subsidized oil.

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    just because some posters in a forum think osama was dead doesn't mean it is gospel. and just because you said, i think he is alive is nothing. i'm sure the majority of the united states thought he was alive.

    and no, i haven't been in here long. forum is pretty cool though. everyone says what they think...gets blasted or praised and moves on... no mods banning you for every little thing. nice site.
    Glad you like the forum, as you can see all opinions, no matter how popular or unpopular, are always welcome. I feel, It is only through open discussion forums like this that we can prevent the further dentigration of our political system and maybe our society.

    True, not everyone thought Usama was dead, but it was more of a common theme among Republicans than it was for democrats as a whole.

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    osama is not out wild in the streets or you would know about it... that would be a sure election loser for bush if osama was so brazen to come out of hiding and walk in the streets...
    After lies, lies, and more lies, who knows what to believe from this administration anymore? They have no credibility left. They are like the boy who cried wolf once too often.

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    For all we know Usama could be back in Saudi Arabia living the life of a monarch.
    I can guarantee you he ain't in Saudi Arabia. Pakistan, Syria, Iran, and Lebanon would be good guesses though.

    What does the administration have to do with Osama walking in the streets? That's dumb.

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    After lies, lies, and more lies, who knows what to believe from this administration anymore? They have no credibility left. They are like the boy who cried wolf once too often.
    but if osama was out gallavanting like a free man, it'd be all over al-jazeera...

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    BTW Dan,

    My comment about capitulating to Osama was an end game observation. Nothing we will ever do, outside of killing every last one of Osama and those who think like him, will end this.

    My comment about the oil is because there's about 6-7 things that Osama really wants before he'll call off the dogs so to speak. One of them is that the west starts paying the Middle East and its people what they really deserve to be getting for oil, not the "theft" that we've been committing for the last 50 years or so.

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    Speaking of lies, I am glad the Democrat party felt the need to support this film and embrace its creator in the manner they did earlier this year. I think it speaks volumes about what the Democrat party has become.


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    BTW Dan,

    My comment about capitulating to Osama was an end game observation. Nothing we will ever do, outside of killing every last one of Osama and those who think like him, will end this.

    My comment about the oil is because there's about 6-7 things that Osama really wants before he'll call off the dogs so to speak. One of them is that the west starts paying the Middle East and its people what they really deserve to be getting for oil, not the "theft" that we've been committing for the last 50 years or so.
    what do you think they deserve for their oil? the OPEC nations are the ones who set the price of oil.

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    Marcus Bryant? have you even sat down to watch the film?
    I hate when folks bash something when they have no idea what it really is about.

    At least I let Bush screw with this country for four long years before I started bashing him, doesn't Mr. more deserve 2 hours?

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    Oh yeah. Marcus is like that.
    He and others want to censor anything that they don't approve of.
    Oh, but the Swift Boat Ads which were dubunked were Gospel for them.
    There are just as many nuts in the Republican party.
    It's a shame that the Republican party has to resort to lies and misinformation which Cheney continues to spew but is not called out on by republicans who keep believing his bull . That's why so many Americans still belive that Iraq and Saddam was involved with 9/11.

    They truly believe their own lies.

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    Oh yeah. Marcus is like that.
    Yes, I am used to people talking about something I wrote.

    He and others want to censor anything that they don't approve of.
    Where have I advocated the censoring of anything? Free expression is great. Plus, it allowed certain members of the left to show where their true allegiance lies. For that I am most grateful.

    Oh, but the Swift Boat Ads which were dubunked were Gospel for them.
    Which ads? It might surprise you to find out that I think that Kerry's service in Vietnam was quite honorable.

    There are just as many nuts in the Republican party.
    Based on what I've seen occur in this election thusfar, actually what I've seen transpire over the last two years, I'd say the Left has the Right beat in that department.

    It's a shame that the Republican party has to resort to lies and misinformation which Cheney continues to spew but is not called out on by republicans who keep believing his bull .
    Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

    That's why so many Americans still belive that Iraq and Saddam was involved with 9/11.
    It's probably why most Americans think Elvis is still alive as well.

    They truly believe their own lies.
    You mean like Fahrenheit 911?

    Oh wait, it was someone else who apparently believed it.


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    After lies, lies, and more lies, who knows what to believe from this administration anymore? They have no credibility left. They are like the boy who cried wolf once too often.
    If Kerry wins Dan, remember this post of yours. You're gonna hear it a lot!

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    Clandestino,

    I don't know. That's not my opinion, I'm telling you one of Osama's beefs. He's fashioned himself (with a lot of help from the Arab Street) as a sort of Muslim Robin Hood. About all the Mideast has in the way of exports to offer the world is sand and oil.

    He feels that the Arab people are poor because several of the autocratic regimes in the ME have cut us deals on oil, basically subsidizing the cost of oil for the West while the Arab people live on the streets with no income.

    Don't shoot the messenger on this one, I'm just relaying the realities (not what you hear in the media on either side of the aisle) on this one.

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    Liar Liar Pants on Fire.
    sorry but that was funny,
    Rack the Liar Liar reset,



    .

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    Clandestino,

    I don't know. That's not my opinion, I'm telling you one of Osama's beefs. He's fashioned himself (with a lot of help from the Arab Street) as a sort of Muslim Robin Hood. About all the Mideast has in the way of exports to offer the world is sand and oil.

    He feels that the Arab people are poor because several of the autocratic regimes in the ME have cut us deals on oil, basically subsidizing the cost of oil for the West while the Arab people live on the streets with no income.

    Don't shoot the messenger on this one, I'm just relaying the realities (not what you hear in the media on either side of the aisle) on this one.
    the u.s. is the largest importer of oil, hence we can help sway the price of it... if we don't buy it, they have to lower the price of it... if saudi didn't sell us any oil, they would be ed worse than us bc, like you said, they have nothing to offer except sand and oil...

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    "If we don't buy it..."

    Therein lies the rub. Economically, our "demand" for oil is doing nothing but going up. More people with vehicles, more people with gas guzzling SUVs. No one's gonna walk, and most can't be bothered with public transportation (of course, lots of places don't have that great of a public transport system).

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