BCS Rankings

[NoMoneyDown]

so i am pretty sure the computer polls have notre dame higher than t.u.

Here's how UT faired in the computer polls. Hold the laughter until the end, please.

Sagarin: #8
Andersen: #17 (he has Rutgers at #5)
Billingsley: #7
Colley: #17 (he has Rutgers at #7)
Massey: #15 (he has Rutgers at #11)
Wolfe: #18 (he has Rutgers at #10)

It's no wonder Texas came it at only #9.

This year, the Rose would pick last and would take Cal over WVa and Fla. No way WVa, even at BCS #6, gets picked with teams like Cal, Fla and Tenn eligible.

LOL! That's what people were saying about WVU last year when they traveled to Georgia's backyard to play them in the Sugar Bowl. The Big East's best had absolutely no business playing the SEC's best (and the BCS's #5 team). Georgia would annhilate them. Etc. I guess you know what the result was. WVU has arguably the best 1-2 running tandem in CFB today. Slaton is anywhere from #2 to #5 in most people's Heisman rankings. He ran for over 160yds this past week while the QB (Pat White) ran for a school and Big East record 247yds. Keep thinking WVU isn't at the top-5 level, and they'll keep proving you wrong.

[MajorMike]

Texas is screwed for BCS. Unless Neb and atm win out completely, they have no remaining highly ranked teams left. Even beating both of them will give both 2 losses. Then if Neb were to win out, that would mean they would be in the B12 game, and you don't get double credit for beating the same team twice. Better case for them would be for atm to win out, Mizzou to win out, Neb to lose to Mizzou, and tek to win out. This would give them wins over a 2-loss atm, a 3-loss Neb, a 3-loss tek, and a 2-loss Mizzou. Still may not be enough without help.

Mich and/or Ohio will most likely only lose to the other, leaving one 1-loss and ranked ahead of UT.

USC has ND and Cal left.

Auburn has a poor schedule leftand will most likley win the West, as I see a couple losses for Ark (@ SC, Tenn, LSU). If that is the case, they would play Fla, which they would not get credit for again if they beat. Feasably Auburn could win out, not be in the SEC game, and still be ranked higher than any SEC team. We would then have the uo senario where KState beat them in the B12 game, they were not the B12 Champ, and yet still got a spot in the BCS game. Conversely, Fla could easily win out (UGA, SC, @ Fla St) then beat a highly ranked Ark or Auburn in the SEC game and still be ranked ahead of UT.

If the BEast winner wins out, they will be ranked ahead of UT. Would be WVa or L'Ville. That conf is good, with L'Ville, WVa, and Rutgers all 6-0 while Pitt is 6-1.

If USC beats ND and Cal beats USC, I would say that both P10 teams would be ranked ahead of UT.

I see zero way for UT to be in the top 2. Virtually impossible. They will still get the Fiesta Bowl if they win the B12 game.

[johngateswhiteley]

Texas is screwed for BCS. Unless Neb and atm win out completely, they have no remaining highly ranked teams left. Even beating both of them will give both 2 losses. Then if Neb were to win out, that would mean they would be in the B12 game, and you don't get double credit for beating the same team twice. Better case for them would be for atm to win out, Mizzou to win out, Neb to lose to Mizzou, and tek to win out. This would give them wins over a 2-loss atm, a 3-loss Neb, a 3-loss tek, and a 2-loss Mizzou. Still may not be enough without help.

Mich and/or Ohio will most likely only lose to the other, leaving one 1-loss and ranked ahead of UT.

USC has ND and Cal left.

Auburn has a poor schedule leftand will most likley win the West, as I see a couple losses for Ark (@ SC, Tenn, LSU). If that is the case, they would play Fla, which they would not get credit for again if they beat. Feasably Auburn could win out, not be in the SEC game, and still be ranked higher than any SEC team. We would then have the uo senario where KState beat them in the B12 game, they were not the B12 Champ, and yet still got a spot in the BCS game. Conversely, Fla could easily win out (UGA, SC, @ Fla St) then beat a highly ranked Ark or Auburn in the SEC game and still be ranked ahead of UT.

If the BEast winner wins out, they will be ranked ahead of UT. Would be WVa or L'Ville. That conf is good, with L'Ville, WVa, and Rutgers all 6-0 while Pitt is 6-1.

If USC beats ND and Cal beats USC, I would say that both P10 teams would be ranked ahead of UT.

I see zero way for UT to be in the top 2. Virtually impossible. They will still get the Fiesta Bowl if they win the B12 game.

...thats pretty good Mike, and i agree. but there is also one other point to be made. not only is there no way for t.u. to make the championship game...they are not good enough to be there anyway, so it really does not matter.

Ohio State
Michigan
USC
West Virginia
Auburn
Florida

...those teams are all better, imo. not to mention if notre dame wins out they will have a win over #2 SC which t.u. could in no way overcome in the BCS standings.

as it stands now, i think USC and Ohio State win out and face each other. even if USC loses a game its likely they will still be #2 (like OU when they lost to k-state). their strength of schedule is tops and the computers LOVE them.

[NoMoneyDown]

I think USC should be ranked high because of their record, but in all honesty, I don't see them better than Texas. Their only quality win, IMHO, was against Arkansas at the beginning of the year. but with it being the first game, I can't conclude too much from the score. However, these games should really stick out for anyone wanting to compare the two teams (USC & Texas):

Washington State

USC survived a scare in Pullman, 28-22. Interestingly, two weeks prior, WSU barely gets by Baylor, 17-15 on the same field. And, we all saw how Texas dismantled Baylor, 63-31 (actually, 63-24, but Mack chose not to contest the last Baylor TD).

Washington

USC survives a scare for the 2nd week in a row - this time at home - to the Washington Huskies, 26-20. A month before, Washington traveled to Norman, OK to play the Sooners and were beaten by 17. Two road games by Washington, one ending in a 17pt loss and the other a 6pt defeat. Texas and OU meet in the RRS and Texas wins by 18.

Arizona State

With wins over Northern Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado, Arizona St. didn't expect to even be in the game against USC let alone be looking at a near upset. But ASU just about pulled it off, and USC survived a 3rd week in a row by beating an UNRANKED team by 7pts or less.

Yes, Texas has one loss and that may indeed be enough to claim USC is better than Texas, but while USC has struggled against three UNRANKED teams, Texas has beaten one (Oklahoma - then #14) and kicked the crap outta the others.

[johngateswhiteley]

I think USC should be ranked high because of their record, but in all honesty, I don't see them better than Texas. Their only quality win, IMHO, was against Arkansas at the beginning of the year. but with it being the first game, I can't conclude too much from the score. However, these games should really stick out for anyone wanting to compare the two teams (USC & Texas):

Washington State

USC survived a scare in Pullman, 28-22. Interestingly, two weeks prior, WSU barely gets by Baylor, 17-15 on the same field. And, we all saw how Texas dismantled Baylor, 63-31 (actually, 63-24, but Mack chose not to contest the last Baylor TD).

Washington

USC survives a scare for the 2nd week in a row - this time at home - to the Washington Huskies, 26-20. A month before, Washington traveled to Norman, OK to play the Sooners and were beaten by 17. Two road games by Washington, one ending in a 17pt loss and the other a 6pt defeat. Texas and OU meet in the RRS and Texas wins by 18.

Arizona State

With wins over Northern Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado, Arizona St. didn't expect to even be in the game against USC let alone be looking at a near upset. But ASU just about pulled it off, and USC survived a 3rd week in a row by beating an UNRANKED team by 7pts or less.

Yes, Texas has one loss and that may indeed be enough to claim USC is better than Texas, but while USC has struggled against three UNRANKED teams, Texas has beaten one (Oklahoma - then #14) and kicked the crap outta the others.

i understand why you post this, but there are many reasons for USC's inconsistancies...lets just see how it plays out cause there is no way we will agree.

as for only one quality win, thats just not so, we crushed nebraska. and you'll see how good they are this weekend against t.u..

[MajorMike]

At the same time, you have to know that certain teams going no where get up to play the big boys. Same logic applies when Atlanta and the Hornets and the Raptors get up to play the Spurs because they are the Spurs.

Using that logic... USC best watch out for ND. ND has pretty much nothing else to play for (as they are nearly assured of a BCS bowl and no le shot) and they remember having them beaten last year.

And in reality, it doesn't matter if they are better or not. The only game on UT's schedule that matters came and left, and they lost it.

[Mr Dio]

I think USC should be ranked high because of their record, but in all honesty, I don't see them better than Texas. Their only quality win, IMHO, was against Arkansas at the beginning of the year. but with it being the first game, I can't conclude too much from the score. However, these games should really stick out for anyone wanting to compare the two teams (USC & Texas):

Washington State

USC survived a scare in Pullman, 28-22. Interestingly, two weeks prior, WSU barely gets by Baylor, 17-15 on the same field. And, we all saw how Texas dismantled Baylor, 63-31 (actually, 63-24, but Mack chose not to contest the last Baylor TD).

Washington

USC survives a scare for the 2nd week in a row - this time at home - to the Washington Huskies, 26-20. A month before, Washington traveled to Norman, OK to play the Sooners and were beaten by 17. Two road games by Washington, one ending in a 17pt loss and the other a 6pt defeat. Texas and OU meet in the RRS and Texas wins by 18.

Arizona State

With wins over Northern Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado, Arizona St. didn't expect to even be in the game against USC let alone be looking at a near upset. But ASU just about pulled it off, and USC survived a 3rd week in a row by beating an UNRANKED team by 7pts or less.

Yes, Texas has one loss and that may indeed be enough to claim USC is better than Texas, but while USC has struggled against three UNRANKED teams, Texas has beaten one (Oklahoma - then #14) and kicked the crap outta the others.

Some Common Sense among the senseless.
3 wks & counting, how long will the Fallacy continue??
I only hope that SC does make The BCS game, IMO they have clearly escaped with an undefeated record so far vs the big bad PAC-10.
It would be easy money & the team that SC would play in The BCS game (most likely the OSU v Mich winner) would be celebrating a win all night.

[NoMoneyDown]

as for only one quality win, thats just not so, we crushed nebraska. and you'll see how good they are this weekend against t.u..

I'm thinking Texas will beat Nebraska by at least three TD's. On some other message boards - including one inhabited by professional cappers - there was a majority last week who took Baylor and the points. I told them Texas would romp by something like 52-10. They cited Baylor's tough passing attack, Texas' questional pass coverage, and Baylor's revamped defense as support. I held my ground. The rest, they say, is history. Had Mack decided to contest the last play (which I agree he shouldn't have at that time), the score would've been 63-24. 42pts vs. 39pts - pretty darn close predicting.

[johngateswhiteley]

I'm thinking Texas will beat Nebraska by at least three TD's. On some other message boards - including one inhabited by professional cappers - there was a majority last week who took Baylor and the points. I told them Texas would romp by something like 52-10. They cited Baylor's tough passing attack, Texas' questional pass coverage, and Baylor's revamped defense as support. I held my ground. The rest, they say, is history. Had Mack decided to contest the last play (which I agree he shouldn't have at that time), the score would've been 63-24. 42pts vs. 39pts - pretty darn close predicting.

you're talking about a baylor team that shot themselves in the foot about 10 times. IF baylor is not completely inept they only lose by about 17 points, imo.

as for Nebraska, if you give me 21 points...you got a bet.

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[Mr Dio]

I'm thinking Texas will beat Nebraska by at least three TD's. On some other message boards - including one inhabited by professional cappers - there was a majority last week who took Baylor and the points. I told them Texas would romp by something like 52-10. They cited Baylor's tough passing attack, Texas' questional pass coverage, and Baylor's revamped defense as support. I held my ground. The rest, they say, is history. Had Mack decided to contest the last play (which I agree he shouldn't have at that time), the score would've been 63-24. 42pts vs. 39pts - pretty darn close predicting.

This shows you have common sense & not the "Rah Rah Rah Go Team" type of rational that is common place on this thread.
If nothing else at least some of the others' opinions are funny.

[Mr Dio]

I'd bet anyone on the line Vegas provides on UT v NEB.
That is why most people bet on a certain side/team, because they think the line off.

I have yet to meet anyone dumb enough to go to a window in Vegas (or anywhere) & tell them that they'll take less points.
"Excuse me Mr Bellagio, I'll take UT but I insist you make my line at least 14pts higher!"

[samikeyp]

I still want a playoff. Settle it on the field like everyone else.

Just my .02

[NoMoneyDown]

you're talking about a baylor team that shot themselves in the foot about 10 times. IF baylor is not completely inept they only lose by about 17 points, imo.

LOL! First play from scrimmage - score. End around pass to QB (trick play) - score. TD in last 20secs that wasn't - score. Any of those could have easily have never happened, but did. Texas' "D" can take credit for a lot of the game (just like against OU), but that's a mark of a good team.

as for Nebraska, if you give me 21 points...you got a bet.

I wish I could - believe me. Spent my load for the week already, tho (including chalk on this game). I think NU will keep it close in the 1H, but Texas opens the flood gates in the 2H. Too much talent, speed, and experience for Texas. I think even if Texas' "O" didn't play a down, Texas would win the game.

[sa_butta]

I still want a playoff. Settle it on the field like everyone else.

Just my .02

Wishful thinking, but then that would actually make some sense instead of just confusing the out of everyone.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I still want a playoff. Settle it on the field like everyone else.

Just my .02

It will be, November 18th. Welcome to Big 11 country...

[sa_butta]

It will be, November 18th. Welcome to Big 11 country...

Hopefully both OSU and Michigan will still be undefeated at that time.

[Vizzini]

Hopefully both OSU and Michigan will still be undefeated at that time.

If either one of them loses, the team that lost would be out and out frauds. There is no reason, given the way both teams have played so far that either of them should win all of their remaining games by at least double digits, until Nov. 18th. I am a Michigan fan, and if they lose before Ohio State, I will give up on the rest of the season and rediscover them come next August.

[scott]

I still want a playoff. Settle it on the field like everyone else.

Just my .02

Good call. I'm of the opinion that any of the top 1-loss SEC teams (Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, maybe even throw LSU in there) could beat the rest of the top 10 nine times out of ten. But we'll never get to know that.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Playoff format would clear up alot of conference strength questions. I would love a playoff system.

But that is a pipe dream, so instead I will keep praying that UT ends up playing USC in their bowl game so I can call out JohnBryantWhitley until he stops his USC nutsucking. This board is mostly UT biased by far, but at least most of us also call our own team out when need be. This chodemonger just sounds like a USC analyst.

[scott]

Playoff format would clear up alot of conference strength questions. I would love a playoff system.

But that is a pipe dream, so instead I will keep praying that UT ends up playing USC in their bowl game so I can call out JohnBryantWhitley until he stops his USC nutsucking. This board is mostly UT biased by far, but at least most of us also call our own team out when need be. This chodemonger just sounds like a USC analyst.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "most"

[mookie2001]

...thats pretty good Mike, and i agree. but there is also one other point to be made. not only is there no way for t.u. to make the championship game...they are not good enough to be there anyway, so it really does not matter.

Ohio State
Michigan
USC
West Virginia
Auburn
Florida

...those teams are all better, imo. not to mention if notre dame wins out they will have a win over #2 SC which t.u. could in no way overcome in the BCS standings.

as it stands now, i think USC and Ohio State win out and face each other. even if USC loses a game its likely they will still be #2 (like OU when they lost to k-state). their strength of schedule is tops and the computers LOVE them.

1. no ing way auburn or west virginia is better than texas, if they would play saturday Texas would destroy USC ONLY because of all their key, numerous, crucial injuries that only they have suffered this year--2. not making it to the national le game isnt , it would still be a great season to win the Fiesta bowl, I mean a few years ago USC won the rose bowl (which wasnt the national championship) and they ended up winning their first of 3 straight national championships 3. If texas beats nebraska by like 7 points, your margin of victory arguement is already looking aggy lame-

[scott]

Auburn > WVU > UT > USC

[mookie2001]

Arkansas>everyone not Ohio St.

[scott]

Last week's (or maybe 2 weeks ago) SI had Texas playing Boise State in the Fiesta I believe. That would be an interesting matchup, though I think Texas would manage to squeek out with a 35 point win.

[mookie2001]

He-Mann wants Notre Dame or USC