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Then those people didn't watch Rasho play. He was a better defender than people realize and he ALWAYS had good fundamentals. Rasho also averaged 1.5 blocks per game his last season in Minnesota. Bonner last year-- 0.4.
Bonner would need more than timing.
Then those people didn't watch Rasho play. He was a better defender than people realize and he ALWAYS had good fundamentals. Rasho also averaged 1.5 blocks per game his last season in Minnesota. Bonner last year-- 0.4.
I agree completely. Horry was never a "good" shotblocker. Playing alongside a couple of the greatest shot blockers ever allows one to roam and get a lot of weak side swats, which inflates your stats. Horry also got many of those blocks because he used to have incredible hops, and if Bonner had that kind of ability, we'd have heard about it before now.
If Bonner can learn the defensive system and be in the right place at the right time, he'll contribute. If he's not percieved as a weakness on one side of the floor, he'll get playing time.
Yeah, I'm not sure Bonner could jump over a phone book. Rasho couldn't jump over a piece of paper but being 7'1 with long arms helped.
As you inferred, though: Doing like Rasho did and learning to be in the right place helps volumes.
I'm not trying to bash Bonner- I am being realistic. People act like he will magically develop abilitles he simply does not have. Can he improve them- of course- but not to the extent that people are acting like he can. I am just saying they should be realistic. I also still ask- how many minutes will he even get to play. With Tim, Horry, Fabricio, Elson, Bonner, and Butler. Give me a breakdown. It's not like Pop will suddenly decide to play Bonner in crunch time instead of Rob!
The most the Spurs can hope from Bonner defensively is what they got from Danny Ferry. Near the end of Ferry's time with the Spurs, he played some power forward. He never blocked shots but he did a good job with help defense and came up with key rebounds when it counted.
If Bonner can do that, he'll earn playing time.
Big IF.
Duncan and Horry will play the same amount of minutes. Fabricio will take Nazr's minutes. Bonner and Elson will get Rasho's minutes depending on matchups or who is playing better.
Rasho averaged 20 minutes a game last year so they'll be plenty of minutes for Bonner to get if he's playing well ... especially considering Duncan, Bowen and Horry probably play slightly less minutes and Marks is gone.
Yeah because the Spurs have a long history of not getting big guys to be able to play defense.
Yeah, because Pop doesn't just suddenly make personnel decisions in crunch time that make no ing sense to the rest of us.
If he hits his threes and attempts to play some "D" i'll be happy
Well, I know how you feel about Elson, but don't you think he will play more than Bonner? And do you only expect Fabricio to play 17 minutes a night?
Have you completetly ruled out minutes for Butler? I thought you wanted him starting by All-Star break?
Last edited by ploto; 10-16-2006 at 10:37 PM.
Yeah- it worked so well with Nazr!Yeah because the Spurs have a long history of not getting big guys to be able to play defense.
Herrera's Mom > Bonner.
The Spurs have 4 duds in their lineup. This is the worst assembled Spurs roster ever.
Sweet. We have our Bonzi-stopper.
maybe if he doesn't block any shots, at least maybe change/alter some shots in the lane and play as strong as possible on D. If he just plays tall it will help.
That might be the case, but I don't think it would be very wise. Big Shot got alot of minutes as the season wore on and was used exculsively as the first big man off bench playing major minutes in the playoffs. I love Robert Horry as a compe or and clutch shooter, but he's not a guy who can consistently give you regular minutes. Bonner, despite his defensive and rebounding deficincies, is a productive offensive player and could really be pivotal in saving Horry from wearing himself out.
This guy's a "glass half empty" kind of guy huh?
People keep repeating this but it simply is not true.
Of the final 8 regular season games- Rob did not even play in 2 of them. Of the 6 he played in, he averaged 18 minutes per game. That is not that much.
Sacramento series: still only averaged just under 19 minutes per game
The idea that he was too worn out by the time the Dallas series hit just doesn't hold.
As for your major minutes claim- he averaged 17 minutes per game in the play-offs over the 13 games- including 3 OT games.
Pop just didn't trust Horry to guard Dirk when it came down to it - and theres no way he could guard Josh Howard, so what was he supposed to do? When and how was he going to play, and if hes not even warmed up or playing in the first three quarters, why do we expect anything out of him the fourth?
he better panned out b4 trade week, cose we are shippin him out to get ......
And in those minutes, didn't he look worn out to you? He wasn't his normally spry self. So I would use "major" minutes as a relative term to suggest that he played more minutes than he should have. The simple fact is that he is 35 years old and the man called HIMSELF a dinosaur! Bon-Bon should get some of Horry's minutes because he's a proven productive player offensively in short minutes.
The way Horry looked had nothing to do with playing too much basketball.
Put him in when the starting SF or PF is out and he guards the person that's less of a threat while Duncan or Horry guards the other.
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