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    I was raised in a devoutly Catholic household & I married a Baptist who converted.

    We happily attended Catholic service for the first 5 year of our marriage; then moved to a Lutheran Church.

    We now attend a much more "evangelical" church.

    In the meantime we have sent our children to a very strict Catholic School.

    There are differences in what Catholics and Protestants believe about Christ and his message.

    Most Protestant's believe what John wrote in 3:16; my mother (a devout Catholic her entire life) didn't know the reference. Protestants believe "Saved by grace not by acts". Catholics, as a rule, do not. Catholics believe in pergatory as a holding place to serve time for your sins (Reader's digest Version). Catholics believe in praying to (not worshiping) Mary, other Saints, and even dead relatives, for intercession. Most Protestants do not.

    I personally believe that the Catholic Church could do well to focus more on the bible; that 2 thousand years of tradition have lead them slightly a-stray from the basic premise of what Jesus came and did for us all. I would not go back to being Catholic, but by no means am I "Anti-Catholic".

    Also, after being in both, Catholics don't understand any more about what Protestants believe than Protestants understand Catholics.

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    it's easy to pick on catholic priests because they have taken a vow of celibacy...
    A vow that was not needed, called for, required or requested. Simply a 'sacrifice' that was ins uted by men that then turned to tradition. How will someone who is neither a father or a husband relate to the problems of his congregation? This doctrine hurts more than it helps.

    .....and there is a central authority in the church.
    The central authority in the Church should be none other than the Head of the Church itself... i.e. Jesus Christ.

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    This doctrine hurts more than it helps
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    The central authority in the Church should be none other than the Head of the Church itself... i.e. Jesus Christ.
    And the Catholic church agrees with you on this one.

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    Haven't we all gone thru these arguments before? Priest, Ministers are people from
    society. Society is not perfect. Neither are those who criticize it. Yeah, including me.
    So what is new. The Catholic church has paid dearly for their "sins" and the other
    denominations will also if some of their ministers are found to do the same as the
    Priest.

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    Of course, why go to listen to a person who went to school for years and actually diligently studied the material and the background references, when you can sit there and try to figure it all out for yourself?
    Why not? I always thought the relationship with god is a personal one...and I don't think anyone else can teach you about that or what is said.

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    if you're talking about infallibility, the pope isn't infallible most of the time. the main difference between (roman and eastern orthodox) catholics and protestants is that catholics believe in transubstantiation; i.e. the bread literally is jesus's body and the wine is jesus's blood, they're not just symbols
    No, I'm not just talking about the Pope's infallible moments. Tradition is much, much, more important in Catholicism than for Protestants.

    Is there any Protestant church that really cares about transubstantiation? Protestants are happy however Jesus is present.

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    Why not? I always thought the relationship with god is a personal one...and I don't think anyone else can teach you about that or what is said.

    This is obviously going towards an argument similar to that of abortion, you are either pro-life or pro-choice and you won't change your mind. You are either for the Catholic church or against it.

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    It doesn't mean that every preist is molesting children, but when you discover an organization that is protecting preist that molest children, then that organization deserves to be gutted.

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    Call me crazy but I just never understood how people can get up early every Sunday and go to Chuch. Too each his own I guess.

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    I'm not justifying by any means, just came across this and thought it was interesting.

    Some media sources have noted that when placed in perspective, the do ented cases in the Catholic Church are much lower than incidents of pedophilia in the public school system. For the latter, the problem is over three times higher (up to 5% of teachers, versus estimates of 0.2%[7] and 1.5% of Catholic priests), and only an estimated 1% of pedophile teachers have faced the loss of their license since most are merely moved to other districts. The police are rarely notified.

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    This is obviously going towards an argument similar to that of abortion, you are either pro-life or pro-choice and you won't change your mind. You are either for the Catholic church or against it.
    I'm not for or against the catholic church I meant church in general...the idea of going to it.

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    It doesn't mean that every preist is molesting children, but when you discover an organization that is protecting preist that molest children, then that organization deserves to be gutted.

    Yeah, and everyone that has dedicated their lives to following the teachings of Christ while maintaining the discipline that the catholic church requests from it's followers should be punished too. In fact, you should go and dig up my grandmothers grave and slap her around a bit for being such a devout catholic and going to a catholic church every day. You're a jackass.

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    I'm not for or against the catholic church I meant church in general...the idea of going to it.

    Got ya. I don't really care if people are for or against any church to tell you the truth, I just don't understand some people's hatred towards religion of any type.

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    Got ya. I don't really care if people are for or against any church to tell you the truth, I just don't understand some people's hatred towards religion of any type.
    Perhaps because of the judgemental spin some people like to place on it.

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    I don't want to dig her up because she's a devout catholic, but it couldn't hurt to slap some sense into people who praise an individual that protects child molesters.

    When you break everything down to it's lowest common denominator of the catholic religion, you'll find the Pope.

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    Good points, however, remeber that its not like i'm an aethist converting.

    A question about sacrament. I'm the god parent to my nephew. Do i continue to guide him as a Lutheran or Catholic?

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    Guide him as a role model.

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    , even most catholics while denying that its a high rate admit that the Church covers up all those molesters.


    I've already told Mary that i do NOT want alot of one on one alone time with our future sons because of this.


    When you deny a basic animal instinct, your asking for problems. By denying the priests sex, they are asking for the problems.


    I like the comparisons though between religions though, it is helping me to keep an open mind.

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    Guide him as a role model.

    I accepted the role as guiding his religious life.

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    Why not? I always thought the relationship with god is a personal one...and I don't think anyone else can teach you about that or what is said.
    And let us consider and give attentive, continuous care to watching over one another, studying how we may stir up (stimulate and incite) to love and helpful deeds and noble activities, not forsaking or neglecting to assemble together [as believers], as is the habit of some people, but admonishing (warning, urging, and encouraging) one another, and all the more faithfully as you see the day approaching.

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    Here we go again.

    Go Notre Dame!! Go Buckeyes!! Go Big Ten!!!

    I'm Catholic and I'm stickin' to it. Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

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    While I agree with you that the comment is strictly my opinion; the question still beckons...

    What benefit does a priest's celibacy offer the congregation that would otherwise not be provided if he were married? Jesus never explicitly told his followers that church leaders were to remain celibate... Peter himself was married, the disciple Catholics claim as their first Pope.

    Again though, don't assume I'm attacking the Catholic church simply because I have a disagreement with one of its practices.

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    I guess there are ways to read that...I mean i read it and meaning keeping people safe and helping each other but not in a relgious or spiritual way. I don't agree that we should guide each other religiously...I don't think I have any right to guide someone in religious matters or lack thereof.

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    I guess it would be prudent to stick with the religion you're most familiar with, regarding your God child.

    It's just wierd that religion is supposed to be about love, understanding, goodwill, and all that , when in reality it's about killing each other these days.

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    In the part of reality you choose to focus on I suppose it is. You see what you want to see.

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