Troops' debt a growing security concern

[clambake]

So, do you think it's right for our kids to die because Bush get's caught with his pants down on 9-11?

Afghanistan and it's 38 targets (last 10 were probably carts and donkeys) wasn't enough to sooth his shattered ego. These kids have to die because Bin Laden makes him look like a pansy?

Iraq is in the toilet. Can't "Boy Blunder" at least make it work in Afghanistan?

[johnsmith]

OK, then it was dumb. It must not have expressed what I wanted to convey.

Nah, I didn't really think it was dumb, but very unlike you Extra Stout. I usually like what you have to say, even when I disagree.

[johnsmith]

So, do you think it's right for our kids to die because Bush get's caught with his pants down on 9-11?

Afghanistan and it's 38 targets (last 10 were probably carts and donkeys) wasn't enough to sooth his shattered ego. These kids have to die because Bin Laden makes him look like a pansy?

Iraq is in the toilet. Can't "Boy Blunder" at least make it work in Afghanistan?

These kids don't go there to die for our President. They go there to fight for something that they believe in, especially the kids enlisting right now because they know where they will end up. It's not politics to them, it's standing up for what they believe and trying to help our country, even if it is to help us get out of a war that we shouldn't have necessarily started in the first place. I know you don't want to believe this, but there are people here in America that do believe in what we are trying to do. So how about you shut your stupid ass up and just flat out admit that what you said was wrong?

[Extra Stout]

Nah, I didn't really think it was dumb, but very unlike you Extra Stout. I usually like what you have to say, even when I disagree.

Well, excising the weak sarcasm, what I meant to say was:

The strain on the the troops is an inescapable side effect of war.
Even one worth fighting.
Some go crazy. Some go bankrupt. Some lose their health.
And of course, some are maimed or killed.
It's not a new phenomenon in this war. GI's came back from Europe and the Pacific in 1945 mentally and physically broken. I had a great uncle who saw little green men following him all the time after he came back from France. Eventually he threw himself in front of a train to get away from them.

Those guys sacrifice a lot. Their suffering is not something to be dismissed because "they knew what they signed up for."

It's a nasty job, except that the pay sucks, and that you might die.

I don't like these guys being used as political footballs by either side of the aisle. I don't like the crocodile tears on the one hand, and I don't like the callousness on the other.

War takes a huge toll on society even long after it ends. If one supports it, it is in spite of the inevitable negative consequences, because one believes the necessity of fighting outweighs them. To minimize the sacrifice of our troops is wretched and cowardly. To lord one's moral vanity over them is repugnant.

[1369]

Well, excising the weak sarcasm, what I meant to say was:

The strain on the the troops is an inescapable side effect of war.
Even one worth fighting.
Some go crazy. Some go bankrupt. Some lose their health.
And of course, some are maimed or killed.
It's not a new phenomenon in this war. GI's came back from Europe and the Pacific in 1945 mentally and physically broken. I had a great uncle who saw little green men following him all the time after he came back from France. Eventually he threw himself in front of a train to get away from them.

Those guys sacrifice a lot. Their suffering is not something to be dismissed because "they knew what they signed up for."

It's a nasty job, except that the pay sucks, and that you might die.

I don't like these guys being used as political footballs by either side of the aisle. I don't like the crocodile tears on the one hand, and I don't like the callousness on the other.

War takes a huge toll on society even long after it ends. If one supports it, it is in spite of the inevitable negative consequences, because one believes the necessity of fighting outweighs them. To minimize the sacrifice of our troops is wretched and cowardly. To lord one's moral vanity over them is repugnant.

Very well said ES, very well said.

[Crookshanks]

Well, excising the weak sarcasm, what I meant to say was:

The strain on the the troops is an inescapable side effect of war.
Even one worth fighting.
Some go crazy. Some go bankrupt. Some lose their health.
And of course, some are maimed or killed.
It's not a new phenomenon in this war. GI's came back from Europe and the Pacific in 1945 mentally and physically broken. I had a great uncle who saw little green men following him all the time after he came back from France. Eventually he threw himself in front of a train to get away from them.

Those guys sacrifice a lot. Their suffering is not something to be dismissed because "they knew what they signed up for."

It's a nasty job, except that the pay sucks, and that you might die.

I don't like these guys being used as political footballs by either side of the aisle. I don't like the crocodile tears on the one hand, and I don't like the callousness on the other.

War takes a huge toll on society even long after it ends. If one supports it, it is in spite of the inevitable negative consequences, because one believes the necessity of fighting outweighs them. To minimize the sacrifice of our troops is wretched and cowardly. To lord one's moral vanity over them is repugnant.

Now that made sense - even if I disagree with parts of it.

[clambake]

I don't think anyone minimizes the sacrifice of our troops. I haven't heard one discouraging word about pounding the taliban and al queda in Afghanistan.

After that, Bush took a selfish path.

He needs to be held accountable.

[johnsmith]

I don't think anyone minimizes the sacrifice of our troops. I haven't heard one discouraging word about pounding the taliban and al queda in Afghanistan.

After that, Bush took a selfish path.

He needs to be held accountable.

And yet you continue to not mention your comment.

[clambake]

What comment? Your the one with a hard-on about it. Spell it out and get your panties out of a wad.

[clambake]

See Pixelpushers thread about Pat Tillman.