For now, Holt holding line on offer to Parker

[whottt]

Doesn't matter..what's good for the league is good for him. And it will still drive up the value of the franchise...and he can capitalize on that.

[Ginobilly]

The NBA is a Business and most of the Desicions are made based on the future consent that money is going to be made. The owners could give two s if the team never wins a championship as long as their is profit to be made.

[SenorSpur]

Holt is a DUMBASS. He's taking a HUGE gamble here that is almost certain to backfire on him. Sign this kid now and secure our core group of talent for years to come.

[TwoHandJam]

If they really are within a couple of million dollars to a deal, I don't see why the couldn't come to some sort of compromise. There must be something more going on here than is being reported. Based on what was done for Kirilenko, it doesn't look like the Spurs FO is being very creative in coming up with a deal. Holt is really starting to look like the bad guy based on what Ludden is reporting.

[ducks]

tp is willing to budge 2 million
HOLT IS NOT WILLING TO BUDGE ONE LITTLE OF HIS STINGY PENNIES
but can offer max money to webber and kidd

[samikeyp]

I understand that Holt doesn't want to cripple the team with a lot of luxury tax but I don't see how going up even $2mil would do that. The agent wants 70, Holt wants 64, compromise at 67 and be done with it. Holt is messing this up big time.

[GoSpurs21]

Peter paid other's to stay on this team and he forgot his point guard was due for a new contract. I wouldn't say he is a cheap ass, I would say that he and his coach/president aren't very bright in the contracting business. Stephen Jackson, Speedy Claxton, almost David Robinson, big deals for turds like Malik and Rasho. Plus they recruit free agents that absolutely suck. This has been happening for a while.

Peter is the owner, but don't act like Pop has nothing to do with it all.

This is why hatred can be so dangerous, it warps the reality and tries to justify the unreasonable

[boutons]

Can somebody do the numbers?

Holt pays Tony 66 now. What would the luxury tax be on the Spurs?

I'd say organize a "Pay Tony Now!" demonstration for tonight, but Tom Ridge would probably crack our heads and the FBI have us thrown in jail.

[ChumpDumper]

The last few days have hinted at a couple of things:

Holt thinks the CBA talks are going to go heavily in favor of the owners.

Utah's Larry Miller, (formerly?) just below Holt and above Shinn/Woolridge and Sterling on the cheapskate totem pole, either doesn't share that view or doesn't care. He did cave in to AK47's demands after all.

If the non-Miller cheapskates have a lot of pull in the negotiations, there will definitely be a lockout. No question.

[Iron Giant]

Utah doesn't have the free-agent draw that San Antonio has--at least in terms of a prospective le-winner. As such, they have to pay a bit more to get players there...lose AK, there's little chance of getting a similiar player. Most analysis I've read said they overpaid for Okur and Boozer...time will tell, eh?

Be that as it may, if the owners think the new CBA is going to save them a load, they're doing more than inhaling.

[ducks]

get creative holt
think if you have any brain cells left

[toosmallshoes]

I guess he needs to save money on Parker so he can pay his bar tab.

[GrandeDavid]

Peter Holt is suddenly seeming like a jerk who is unfit to lead the Spurs org. anymore. What a petty basketball mind, what a huge letdown in vision. I actually knew very little about the low-profile man until his drinking outburst, then felt for him, but now he throws himself into the local limelight in Drayton McClaine/Donald Sterling fashion. Holt, pull your head out and get it together. And Drayton, get off your ass and get to Puerto Rico and kiss Beltran's ass and roll out some serious red carpet. You do NOT lose that guy to the Yankees. Be nobody's , and that goes for Holt, too!

[RobinsontoDuncan]

i wonder why he doesnt want to spend an extra two million dollars on Tony yet he went up 12 million with manu ginobili who was expected to sign for 40-45mil remeber?

also one would think that he would be just as anxious to lock TP up for six years as TP is to be locked up, why would you want a 4 year deal on that kind of talent. maybe beno is just really, really good.

[whottt]

Bump, for those that dared challenge me...

The Spurs have earned about $25 million in luxury-tax rebates the past two years in addition to receiving their share of the hefty expansion fee Charlotte had to pay to join the league this season. But Holt said that money is being used to reduce debt the team ac ulated while playing in the Alamodome and constructing the SBC Center.

Holt said he is prepared to pay some type of luxury tax in the future, but he doesn't want the team's annual penalty to be much more than the modest $300,000 it paid following the 2002-03 season.

The taxing process hasn't changed...it's only the rebate process...Notice how he downplayed the 25 million? He's not gonna get close to that again under the new CBA. You guys think he's going to be willing to spend more getting less?

He wasn't actually saying he's willing to pay the tax...he was saying he was only willing to give up a few hundred thousand off his rebate...

[Kori Ellis]

But even with Rasho, the Spurs aren't close to luxury tax territory. So I don't understand why you'd think they'd just cut him?

[whottt]

I don't think they're just going to cut him...I think they are trying to trade him...and I think they probably will succeed...

I don't think they are in danger of incurring the tax, and if they were they damn sure wouldn't be looking at spending their MLE or trading for Marshall(under a new contract)...

I am just making a point about Holt being a cheap ass...I think our current financial situation is fine.

[Marcus Bryant]

If I am not mistaken the threshold is going to go up, for starters.

I don't believe that anyone is saying that the tax process is changing, only that now, it isn't an all or nothing rebate under the new CBA.

[Kori Ellis]

I think they are trying to trade him

Yeah, I think that's evident. I don't blame them from a business standpoint though. If they are planning on keeping Nazr, plus Horry just signed for 3 more years, plus they want to pick up someone with the MLE .. Rasho's contract becomes dead weight if he's not going to be utilized.

[Fouled Out]

Plus he still has to decide what he wants to do with Scola,

[JUUOT]

ok i see people point about rasho. but isn't it moving the problem for a year. without rasho on the team, nazr value will go up and force us to pay him too much putting us over the cap.
so why trade rasho more than nazr.
is the difference of their impact is really that important?

Or do you think they trade rasho cause they have a deal going on with nazr or with another big?

[spvrs]

I don't see why people think of Holt as a tight wad. He's the poorest owner in terms of net worth (or maybe he's tied with Les Alexander), he's in the smallest market (or second smallest) in the league, apart from that he only owns 35% of the team.

he's one Duncan injury from loosing a boat load of money.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I don't get it, I though Parker's extension was all worked out! Who changed what? Does Parker want more money? or does Holt want to decrease the amount?

[Kori Ellis]

I don't get it, I though Parker's extension was all worked out! Who changed what? Does Parker want more money? or does Holt want to decrease the amount?

Read the date on the thread.

[Fouled Out]

Tony's agent is pushing for more money, but Holt is thinking about it, his agent is wanting this because his other big time players he represents got raises and wants parker to get one also more bucks for the agent.