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hey kori for info did you see eva at saturday game?
He's a power forward who is a littlle small. I think they are looking at him to play that long 3/athletic 4 type of role. He's 25
It's down to him, Charles Lee and Melvin Sanders for the possible last spot. I don't know if they are leaning toward keeping him.
hey kori for info did you see eva at saturday game?
Butler sucked last night but he played better than Elson/Oberto in the other preseason games. I don't think you should judge him just by last night's game.
I think Pop is considering throwing Butler into the fire but I don't think he'll do it. Too risky and his development might be served best in a more limited role to start the season.
BECAUSE THERE ARE RUMORS she's dating lance armstrong
She's been at a few of the games so far. Anyway, let's keep this thread to talking about the Spurs on the court.
but she was at the arena saturdaY?
any chance she'll wrest the back up point guard role from Beno?
Butler got dominated by Yao but at this stage of each of their careers, that's to be expected. In Butler's defense, he was getting no weak side help and no double teams. Elson and Oberto played him a little better, but then again those guys have gone up against Yao dozens of times.
Judging by the whole preseason, Oberto is probably the best choice as of this second. He's smart, he can rebound some and he's happy doing the dirty work. I could see Elson as a stop gap option because he runs the court well and that could get him a couple easy buckets.
But long term, it's not even close that Butler is the best option. He can really score the ball around the basket. He has good instincts. He still needs to work on his defense and his team play overall, but this is a guy that if you give him 28-30 minutes a game, he could get you 10 points and 8 boards pretty easily.
You'd still go with a player like Horry down the stretch of big games to spread the floor. But the best thing for the future of this franchise is to start Butler.
This decision is a lot like when Pop put Tony Parker and Stephen Jackson in the starting lineups. Parker had some bad games in that preseason and early in the year, but it was obvious that he had the most potential of any point guard on the roster. Stephen Jackson was HORRIBLE in preseason and was bad early on but Pop went with him over the "safer" choice of Steve Smith. Without making that change, the Spurs don't win the championship.
Now comes another time that Pop needs to forget about playing it safe. Moves like those have made him a Hall of Fame coach. Let's see if he has one more in him.
The problem with starting Butler at this point is the fouls. Starting an unseasoned guard or wing is one thing - they'll get killed on defense from time to time - but an unseasoned big will pick up lots of fouls, due to the physical nature of interior play. Can we afford to stack up the bonus early in each quarter?
I'd also like to start Butler sooner than later, if just because Duncan can erase a lot of mistakes, but at least not until the New Year. Oberto can do fine until then. But I'd like 30-40 games as a starter for Butler before the playoffs come.
And when is Elson's ability to run the floor such a great boon? When did we ever need bigs to run the floor? So he gets 2-6 ppg running the floor. Is that so valuable in and of itself?
When do we need bigs to run the floor?And when is Elson's ability to run the floor such a great boon? When did we ever need bigs to run the floor? So he gets 2-6 ppg running the floor. Is that so valuable in and of itself?
Dallas? Phoenix? Alot of the rest of the NBA?
Thats the way the game is heading, adjust accordingly.
We don't need a big who can offensively run the floor. On defensive transition, that helps. Most helpful would be a big who can rotate quickly on defense in half-court sets.
What irks about Elson is this is the only thing exceptional about him. The only thing good people can come up with about him is that he can get easy baskets in transition, just about the last thing on the list we need a big man to excel at.
Unless he could guard Dirk or Amare- I don't get it either. I still don't see how he will any more useful than Nazr against those teams and he will surely be less useful than Rasho against teams with a traditional center.
My prediction-- Elson will be the next big man the Spurs get rid of for not being able to do something that everyone knew he couldn't do in the first place- too bad he bought a house and all.
it will be bearable with his price tag - he's making signifigantly less than the two jettisoned.
No . I was heartened when Elson got Yao into foul trouble early. If he can do that with any consistency, that's worth $3 million.
The best thing any team can do against Houston is make Yao run -- since that's the only thing Elson really does, we should do that while he's out there.
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