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Thank you Mr. Costello.
That my good sir, is what we call a paradox
napalm is a petrolium product...we need the oil to make it.
Thank you Mr. Costello.
Good to know that you listen to reason, Solid.
I didn't have a problem with it.
I bet you'd have a problem with it if CNN showed one of your friends or family members getting killed by sniper. At least I hope you would.
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I guess the meaning of this thread went right over your head. Your problem seems to be with the war itself. I didn't post this to get into a war debate. My problem is with CNN showing footage like this just to shamelessly get ratings. Not to mention putting our troops in harms way by giving terrorists an incentive to go out and do more of the same.
Ware was doing a piece on the terrorists, asking them basically, "WTF is up with you?" They send back the answers as well as 10 snipings from their camera POV. The first part should've made the cut, the Q&A with the terrorists. But that wouldn't have garnered as many viewers and CNN felt like a little gore and horrorshow (at the expense of our soldiers) would e the ratings a bit.
Sorry, but I'm not the naive one here. I know how things work in the real world. Especially in the sick world of the media.
i say show whatever needs to be shown... it's up to the viewer in the end whether they choose to view it or not.
Good to know that you listen to reason, Solid.
Maybe this will spawn a new video game, "Jihad Sniper takes on the West". Fair and balanced gaming for a better world perspective.
Even if it involves airing enemy propoganda? Do you think the American public is smart enough to identify propoganda when they hear it? You'd be dead wrong if you did. Remember when this whole mess got started? The American media (including CNN) was 100% behind the advancement of the war, both before it and during it. Only recerntly have they come to question it or criticize it. They knew the bonanza in ratings that would come from War-Live, and they designed all sorts of catchy names and programming to go with it (e.''g... COUNTDOWN TO WAR on MSNBC)
It absolutely was propoganda at it's worst and the American people bought it hook, line, and sinker.
We all know that soldiers are getting shot. I'm just not sure that we need to see them "getting hit and falling down" on CNN...but if CNN will shamelessly do anything for ratings, why not go ahead and do closeups of blood and brains all over the sidewalk...it's just the "unvarnished truth" after all...
There is already game like that ... check on the web man, but if you d/l it I'm going to assume you're sick as .
Carefull now. You're obviously taking the "naive" approach to this whole thing.
No, I don't think I'll be downloading that game.
No. It is WAR. People die. At least I'd know how it really happened and the not the Government's story.
So, people are upset at what CNN airs? Don't watch. Its a pretty simple solution.
If Tony Snow is worried about the will of the American people breaking, then perhaps he and the rest of the administration should worry about winning the war. Wars are won on the ground, not on cable news channels.
Agreed. Lets all ignore a major news network in our country airing terrorist footage of our fighting men and women getting killed. That'll make the problem go away.
Brilliant!
You're suggesting that a display without an audience is an effective display? Thats utter foolishness. (But who's suprised, really?)
There are horrible things coming out of Iraq, and some of them will be shown. What gets me is the outrage directed at our news network who is merely reporting what happens. They're not the one pulling the triggers or putting our soldiers there.
With news channels is always about ratings. Thats a given. So don't give them the ratings, and they won't show these things.
But if you got as outraged at your public officials as you do at a news network, then perhaps things might be a bit more well run in our country. But hey, your psuedo internet anger is probably at least entertaining for you, right?
Only in America, so to speak.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
sure, why not?
The US military releases or leaks videos of missile strikes and helicopters strafing the enemy.
Remember the whole scripted "shock-and-awe" dog-and-pony show business the military put on when starting to hit Bagdad in 2003?
The sheeple love watching that as long as its the other side getting killed.
People are not squeamish about seeing dead Iraqis lying around, but get upset seeing dead/injured Americans?
The Repugs don't even want you to see the re-patriated coffins, bringing them back secretly in the middle of the night, off limits to photographers, lest people get too close to the horror of dubya's phony war.
What's good for the (Iraqi) goose, is good for the (American) gander.
Hey dumbass, the terrorists DO NOT NEED any more incentive.
The US is in their country.
We are the enemy...if they were in our country, I would shoot them too.
Our policies make out soldiers targets.
The terrorists hate American because of our middle east policies and our greed of our politicians...I hate our politicians who are on the take too....they only look out for their own bank accts and I hate that they are killing our own soldiers to satisfy their personal gains.
If Bush was hurt by a terrorist, I would not shed a tear, I would not condone it, but I woulld not lose any sleep over it. Bush and his policies have turned our country into the most loathed country in the world, and I hate him for that.
Fine. I'm wrong. I guess it's really OK to show our soldiers getting killed by snipers. Who cares that it's someone's brother, someone's friend, someone's son. None of that really matters. The dead don't deserve any dignity anyway. Screw it. Forget about keeping our fighting men and women safe. Collaborating with the enemy to broadcast their propaganda is much more important.
ICB you're like half as smart as I thought you were--its almost as if you truely believe a terrorist watching CNN will be substantially more motivated to be a terrorist...if you say these things out loud maybe you'll realize how stupid it is.
I think you need to look up the definition of "safe" and "propaganda". WTF is Mr. Dictionary?
I stopped reading right there. All this time I thought you were above resorting to name-calling. I stand corrected.
So why bother responding?
Think about it now. Those particular soldiers were shot specifically to make the video. I think this was in the nature of: "lets make a propoganda video of us shooting US soldiers, and use it to recruit some help." So in my view, CNN sort of completed or fulfilled the intent by posting it. If am an insurgent I'd go out now and do more of it, because it's working.its almost as if you truely believe a terrorist watching CNN will be substantially more motivated to be a terrorist...
Maybe I just take this a little too personally since I'm a veteran, but I don't see how this is benefitting our soldiers (or the American public) at all.
I hate to break it to you, but obviously you haven't been paying attention the past 50 years. Terrorism exists against the US no matter WHO is the president, regardless of their foreign policy or party affiliation.
They dislike our culture, and our way of life ... last I checked, what you wear and the rights you give people (freedom of choice in religion, what you wear, how you treat criminals, etc.) will not be severely impacted by 1 Presidential term. We're over there, and if they wanted to, the next President could pull out regardless of what the world thinks - but hey, if that's what you want, so be it. If you think you could be president, go do all this they bash Bush for doing, faking your education and paying off the school, being a drunk party boy at the frat, etc.
Cause we all know that 99% of our politicians are self made ...
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