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    Because the movie should have not left us hanging, whereupon we have to accept your questionable theories, that is why.


    my theories are not questionable, i see no other explanation. but i like movies that make you think or leave a little to be interpreted...sometimes a lot. why does everything have to be definite or spelled out?

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    Do not read this if you have not seen the movie!!!




    When Billy Costigan goes back to Costello's place after Queenan is killed, and Costello's man(the one that got shot and died) is telling Billy that he gave him the wrong address and Billy was at the right address(in other words he knew Billy was the rat), he asked Billy if he knew why he did not say anything.

    Why did he not tell on Billy? I missed that.

    Because he was undercover as well.

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    I'll have to watch the movie again... I was almost sure that Billy was relieved once the man died too... I was thinking that was a bad guy. oh well there are alot of questions about that movie still!!
    When you watch it again, could you make sure and see if he does help throw Queenan off the roof? I think TD does not show this scene, but that would surely be telling he did. I hope you are not paying.

    At any rate, this piece of crap movie The Defarted may not tell if he was a rat or not. However, "Infernal Affairs" (Hong Kong 2002), the movie off which The Defarted was based before they screwed it all up, apparantly does tell for a fact if he is a rat or not. Along with 300 other plot holes the HK one answers.

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    When you watch it again, could you make sure and see if he does help throw Queenan off the roof? I think TD does not show this scene, but that would surely be telling he did. I hope you are not paying.

    At any rate, this piece of crap movie The Defarted may not tell if he was a rat or not. However, "Infernal Affairs" (Hong Kong 2002), the movie off which The Defarted was based before they screwed it all up, apparantly does tell for a fact if he is a rat or not. Along with 300 other plot holes the HK one answers.
    We get it. You hate the movie

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    Because he was undercover as well.

    He was not undercover, had he been undercover, he would not have allowed them to throw Queenan off the building.

    duh.

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    We get it. You hate the movie
    I have to keep counterbalancing all the ones who gush over it.
    So those like me who read the reviews in advance thinking about whether or not to attend will get a 'both sides' take. Am I on too much of a mission?
    Hey, since you liked it, I'm told you will like Infernal Affairs even more.

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    I have to keep counterbalancing all the ones who gush over it.
    So those like me who read the reviews in advance thinking about whether or not to attend will get a 'both sides' take. Am I on too much of a mission?
    Hey, since you liked it, I'm told you will like Infernal Affairs even more.
    A couple of my friends have seen both and didn't like Infernal Affairs nearly as much. It's just a matter of preference I guess. I will probably rent it though.

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    He was not undercover, had he been undercover, he would not have allowed them to throw Queenan off the building.

    duh.
    he's obviously not undercover, i don't know why people keep suggesting he is.

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    -The envelope contained info for the Sarge.

    -The guy was not a rat. He was saying he ed up by not giving DiCaprio the correct address and was wondering why DiCaprio never said anything about it. He was the one asking DiCaprio if why he hadn't said anything about being given the wrong address.

    The police then used him as a scapegoat.

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    Kori, you are NOT allowed to be in this thread.....get out immediately.




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    Manny did you see IA?
    If so did it clear up without a doubt the status of guy who died on couch?
    I've read it does, have not talked to anyone in person to verify.

    Also, for those who think Dr Shrink Chick does not turn in Matt Damon because she still loves him, I say bogile. She realizes after hearing the tape exactly what a puke he is and knows he would kill her in a heartbeat as she can I.D. him ass being the Chief Puke.
    It is his thinking he is the father of her baby that restrains him from killing her. She knows this and thus is not gonna tell him that Leo D is the father.
    Thats my take on Dr Gal and Matt Damon.

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    wow so many people got this answer wrong, the reason he didnt rat on him was cause he was a cop too stupids....in the news report that they watch it even says, boston police officer was found dead in the mosh ...and they were like wow i cant believe he was a cop after all this time....and then the other guy was like damn i cant believe they found him so easy.....

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    he allowed them to do it cause they would have killed him who knows maybe he wasnt even in the building.......he was a cop he even got the cop funeral, watch the damn japanese version geesh!!!

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    He was not a cop, they just used him to try to get pressure off the mole.

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    wow so many people got this answer wrong, the reason he didnt rat on him was cause he was a cop too stupids....in the news report that they watch it even says, boston police officer was found dead in the mosh ...and they were like wow i cant believe he was a cop after all this time....and then the other guy was like damn i cant believe they found him so easy.....
    ...i don't care what happened in the jap version, said guy is NOT a mole. its freakin obvious people.

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    so because nicholson's paranoid character says so it must be true? there was just as much evidence to suggest he was as there was to suggest he wasn't.

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    he was a cop you guys are idiots to believe otherwise why do you think he never told on him......

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    he was a cop you guys are idiots to believe otherwise why do you think he never told on him......
    Why would they place 2 cops in the same place?

    He was not a cop.


    I am writing an email to Martin right now...I will get to the bottom of this.

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    The guy was not a rat. He was saying he ed up by not giving DiCaprio the correct address and was wondering why DiCaprio never said anything about it. He was the one asking DiCaprio if why he hadn't said anything about being given the wrong address.
    I think you are wrong with this line: "He was saying he ed up by not giving DiCaprio the correct address." He wasn't saying that he ed up by not giving it. He was telling DiCaprio that he gave him the wrong address intentionally (because he suspected him).

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    I think you are wrong with this line: "He was saying he ed up by not giving DiCaprio the correct address." He wasn't saying that he ed up by not giving it. He was telling DiCaprio that he gave him the wrong address intentionally (because he suspected him).
    exactly, i was going to mention this but forgot. i think it is funny that people are so confused on the matter. HE WAS NOT A MOLE.

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    I think you are wrong with this line: "He was saying he ed up by not giving DiCaprio the correct address." He wasn't saying that he ed up by not giving it. He was telling DiCaprio that he gave him the wrong address intentionally (because he suspected him).
    Thats entirely plausible too, but I thought he specificaly mentioned that he screwed up.

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    Thats entirely plausible too, but I thought he specificaly mentioned that he screwed up.
    But, if he accidentally screwed up, do you think he'd notice that he accidentally transposed numbers in a hurried phone call? If he did, and he realized it, wouldn't he make sure that Leo's character got the right address?

    I think he either suspected Leo as the mole, or was told to keep an eye on Leo, or both.

    That guy was not a mole, though. The police 'background' was made up by the police to try and fool Jack into believing the mole had been killed, an he was in the clear.

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    The police 'background' was made up by the police to try and fool Jack into believing the mole had been killed, an he was in the clear.
    Exactly.

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    Yeah, I thought that was obvious. But I guess the police's plan worked so well it confused people in the audience too.

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    suspected Leo as the mole, or was told to keep an eye on Leo, or both.

    That guy was not a mole, though. The police 'background' was made up by the police to try and fool Jack into believing the mole had been killed, an he was in the clear.
    I agree, but it still doesn't explain why the guy never ratted on Costigan after he figured out that he was the cop.

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