Ludden: Butler finding right track with Spurs

[AFBlue]

For reference : http://www.nbadraft.net/2006campmeasurements001.asp

As you can see 28.5% is crazy and even 18% is still high.

Butler hasn't finished with his diet : I guess something like 12% body fat should be Spurs goal.

I dunno, wouldn't 12% put him at like 230? I haven't seen much of him, but I know he uses his weight well in the low post.

I'd be interested to see what Shaq's body fat % is now and what it was at the peak of his career.

Personally I think JB would be best at around 250, whatever body fat % that is.

[Bruno]

I dunno, wouldn't 12% put him at like 230?

I don't think he was at 260 lbs when his body fat was 28.5%, he should be heavier.

[Solid D]

yeah, thats sorta what i was thinkin. I am 205 lbs now and 8.5% body fat. I cant imagine having another 24.5% of my body being fat.

Stay away from San Antonio and LazyBoys and you may be safe.

[itzsoweezee]

this is proof that all of you saying he's not fat are/were wrong. 28% body fat is FAT. , 18% body fat is still FAT for a man.

[Solid D]

Jackie was overweight coming in to camp...no doubt.

[freemeat]

About what time of the season, if at all, do you guys think it would be a good idea to pick up JB for a fantasy team? I'm thinking maybe as early as Christmas.

If he's willing to stay this dedicated and he gets support from guys like Finley this way, I wouldn't be surprised to see him at 15ppg, 10rpg for the second half of the season. Any thoughts?

[Mr. Body]

Knowing nothing of fantasy basketball, I'd say it's very unlikely Butler gets 15/10 this year. I'm hoping for 10/5 or 10/6.

[whottt]

About what time of the season, if at all, do you guys think it would be a good idea to pick up JB for a fantasy team? I'm thinking maybe as early as Christmas.

If he's willing to stay this dedicated and he gets support from guys like Finley this way, I wouldn't be surprised to see him at 15ppg, 10rpg for the second half of the season. Any thoughts?

IF you are talking #1 C, I'd do it right after Duncan retires and not before...being the Spurs C just about completely kills offensive stats for non HOF'ers.

[T Park]

15 and 10???


I mean can we objectively and honestly expect that!?!?!


I mean, is the kid THAT good?

I say kid because IM older than him, talk about depressing

[ShoogarBear]

How many 15 and 10 centers are there in the league? Yao and maybe Shaq. Amare if you want to count him as a center and he's really healthy.

Not realistic.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Some posters here are confusing body fat percentage with body mass index. Body mass index is a simple calculation from weight and height (see here). Body fat percentage has to be measured, using a number of techniques, and cannot be directly calculated from weight and height.

[mavs>spurs2]

I think if he fits in right, Butler can average 10 and 8 this season, or at the very least be a solid backup. In a few more years he could develop into one of the best centers in the league, although there aren't too many good ones left.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I am going to be realistic and only hope the kid learns how to rebound--how to give every single inch and fiber of his being to get every single rebound in his area offensive and defensive.

If he gives us that, he will fit right in.

[Zunni]

Dropping body fat % doesn't mean that you have to lose much weight. Lifting and cardio, combined, will add muscle at the same time you're burning off fat. If he lost 20# and went from 28.5% to 18, I'll bet he lost 30# of fat and added 10# of muscle.

[Russ]

Someone needs to tell Jackie Butler that he will leave millions $$$$$ on the table unless he shapes up.

Just give him a "whatever happened to" speech about Stanley Roberts, "Hot Plate" Williams and Oliver Miller. They all had great upside until they ate their way out of the league.

Unfortunately, the number of players who conquered weight problems in the NBA is pretty slim (and Barkley doesn't count -- he's just an exception).

[wildbill2u]

I never tried to find out my body fat percentage. So I checked out the link abouve and then went to one of the following links, looking for a quick way to find out on the net. at this site http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/pi.shtml I found a indicator where you fill in blanks.

Funny thing. It gave me two different calculations. On one it said I had 33% Body fat and the other was 18%. I'm gonna go to bed tonight dreaming about the second reading and my date with Eva when Tony's out of town. :-)

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Im trying as hard as I can to keep the enthusiasm under wraps for this guy.

BUT DAMN ITS TOO HARD!!!!!

Come on Pop, let the kid learn on the fly. It worked for Stephen Jackson!!!

Remeber that Jax hardly played his first season here - it was his second when he really started flying.

I love the indications that we get of Butler's at ude in this article - he's keen to be a part of this team, he gets a kick from the motivation the veterans around him are feeding to him - and then Michael Finley leading like that. Good, good signs for the kid and the team this year.

[mattyc]

Terrific read, especially regarding Fin. He's definitely a guy we need around.