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  1. #26
    I abhor ugliness Vizzini's Avatar
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    I am a Michigan fan, the way every one was predicting doom and gloom at the begining of the season, I am exstatic at they way they have been playing. I will reserve final judgement until the end of the season, but win or lose, if they play well, I won't be disapointed. If they beat the Bucks on Nov. 18, I will be high as a kite for the next six weeks. If they lose and play horrible, I will be crushed, but if they play great and lose a close one, I will be content in knowing they gave it their all and just lost to a better team.

  2. #27
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    Too early to tell. As with any team we have a 'what if' season so far:

    - What if the C-USA officials got the fumble call right against Houston?
    - What if we had gotten that 1st down against KState to run out the clock?
    - What if Reid wouldn't have gotten hurt against atm?

    You can easily argue that we could be 8-0, or 7-1 at the very least. As it is, we are 5-3 with UT, uo, tek and BU to go. Most people picked us last in the B12 South at 4-8, yet it looks like we might end up 6-6 if we beat BU without their QB at our house.

    Our losses have all been games swung at the end. Our wins have all been convincing. We get uo at our house, and could feasibly be favored in that game. 6-6 is a success if you look at preseason outlook, but still feels like we dcame up short to the fan. 7-5 with a win over uo would be a HUGE success. , I think if we make a showing in Austin in the 2nd half this weekend (3 points in the last 3 years combined in the 2nd half I believe) that could be a huge boost for the remainder of the season.

    Reid is emerging as a star. We have one of the best offenses in the nation (9th in Rush, 40th in Pass, 11th in Total O, 7th in Scoring, only NCAA team with a Top 10 Rushing game and a Top 10 Passing Efficiency). We have a Top 3 WR (#1 YPC, #3 YPG, #3 Yards #2 TDs) and his name ISN'T Woods. Our D isn't great (77th) but we do lead the B12 in sacks and tackles for loss. Are also 4th and 9th in NCAA in KR and PR.

    A Bowl with a Soph QB, Soph/Jr/Frosh RBs, Jr WR, Soph TE all coming back (only losing Sr Woods on Offense) bodes well for next year.

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    Too early to tell. As with any team we have a 'what if' season so far:

    - What if the C-USA officials got the fumble call right against Houston?
    - What if we had gotten that 1st down against KState to run out the clock?
    - What if Reid wouldn't have gotten hurt against atm?

    You can easily argue that we could be 8-0, or 7-1 at the very least. As it is, we are 5-3 with UT, uo, tek and BU to go. Most people picked us last in the B12 South at 4-8, yet it looks like we might end up 6-6 if we beat BU without their QB at our house.

    Our losses have all been games swung at the end. Our wins have all been convincing. We get uo at our house, and could feasibly be favored in that game. 6-6 is a success if you look at preseason outlook, but still feels like we dcame up short to the fan. 7-5 with a win over uo would be a HUGE success. , I think if we make a showing in Austin in the 2nd half this weekend (3 points in the last 3 years combined in the 2nd half I believe) that could be a huge boost for the remainder of the season.

    Reid is emerging as a star. We have one of the best offenses in the nation (9th in Rush, 40th in Pass, 11th in Total O, 7th in Scoring, only NCAA team with a Top 10 Rushing game and a Top 10 Passing Efficiency). We have a Top 3 WR (#1 YPC, #3 YPG, #3 Yards #2 TDs) and his name ISN'T Woods. Our D isn't great (77th) but we do lead the B12 in sacks and tackles for loss. Are also 4th and 9th in NCAA in KR and PR.

    A Bowl with a Soph QB, Soph/Jr/Frosh RBs, Jr WR, Soph TE all coming back (only losing Sr Woods on Offense) bodes well for next year.
    ...against the Aggies Reid went out down 10-6, when the backup came in he threw three touchdowns in the second half. i'm sorry, but i don't think OSU could have played better than that.

  4. #29
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    ...against the Aggies Reid went out down 10-6, when the backup came in he threw three touchdowns in the second half. i'm sorry, but i don't think OSU could have played better than that.
    And yet, we gave you the game on a fumbled and a blocked XP with our backup true Frosh QB and a 3rd string RB. Call it what you want, but for some reason I think Reid would have done better. He's a 2nd half QB. Just ask Neb and KU.

  5. #30
    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I like the Razorbacks and only the Pigs, nobody else, period.

    To call the season a success is stupid considering the biggest part of our schedule starts next week and 3 of the last 4 games.

    All we have to do is win 3 of 4 and playing for the SEC West in the SEC Championship is ours. Auburn will lose again. No matter what happens. They're already overrated, still.

    But anything less than 10 wins by the end of the regular season is failure. And I mean specific wins. @ SC, TN, @MSU, LSU. The wins have to be against either LSU or TN, and we have to beat Misstake and the Game s ending 3 out of 4. 10-2 is acceptable only if one of those losses was to the Vols or LSU Tigers like I said.

    In my eyes anything less than a BCS game is pooh.

  6. #31
    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Too early to tell. As with any team we have a 'what if' season so far:

    - What if the C-USA officials got the fumble call right against Houston?
    - What if we had gotten that 1st down against KState to run out the clock?
    - What if Reid wouldn't have gotten hurt against atm?

    You can easily argue that we could be 8-0, or 7-1 at the very least. As it is, we are 5-3 with UT, uo, tek and BU to go. Most people picked us last in the B12 South at 4-8, yet it looks like we might end up 6-6 if we beat BU without their QB at our house.

    Our losses have all been games swung at the end. Our wins have all been convincing. We get uo at our house, and could feasibly be favored in that game. 6-6 is a success if you look at preseason outlook, but still feels like we dcame up short to the fan. 7-5 with a win over uo would be a HUGE success. , I think if we make a showing in Austin in the 2nd half this weekend (3 points in the last 3 years combined in the 2nd half I believe) that could be a huge boost for the remainder of the season.

    Reid is emerging as a star. We have one of the best offenses in the nation (9th in Rush, 40th in Pass, 11th in Total O, 7th in Scoring, only NCAA team with a Top 10 Rushing game and a Top 10 Passing Efficiency). We have a Top 3 WR (#1 YPC, #3 YPG, #3 Yards #2 TDs) and his name ISN'T Woods. Our D isn't great (77th) but we do lead the B12 in sacks and tackles for loss. Are also 4th and 9th in NCAA in KR and PR.

    A Bowl with a Soph QB, Soph/Jr/Frosh RBs, Jr WR, Soph TE all coming back (only losing Sr Woods on Offense) bodes well for next year.

    Dude you can't play what-ifs.

    What if Arkansas played USC in the middle of the season instead of the first game?

    What if last year Arkansas got the calls they get this year?

    What if what if what if..

  7. #32
    And yet, we gave you the game on a fumbled and a blocked XP with our backup true Frosh QB and a 3rd string RB. Call it what you want, but for some reason I think Reid would have done better. He's a 2nd half QB. Just ask Neb and KU.
    ...and yet:

    1. we had 2 turnovers to your 1
    2. out gained you 423 to 359
    3. had more first downs
    4. had more penalty yards (though marginal)

    ...we deserved to win, and you can say whatever you want, but Reid is not going to score more than 3 TDs in the second half...it just wouldn't happen. our ball control offense wouldn't give you anymore possessions just b/c Reid was in the game. nice win over nebraska though...

  8. #33
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    ...and yet:

    1. we had 2 turnovers to your 1
    2. out gained you 423 to 359
    3. had more first downs
    4. had more penalty yards (though marginal)

    ...we deserved to win, and you can say whatever you want, but Reid is not going to score more than 3 TDs in the second half...it just wouldn't happen. our ball control offense wouldn't give you anymore possessions just b/c Reid was in the game. nice win over nebraska though...

    All that, and yet you had to go to OT and block a kick to win. I'm not trying to say we should have won. I'm not even trying to say we deserved to win. However for you to say OSU couldn't have played much better is simply not true.

    Same arguement everyone is using on baseball forum, the tiggers handed the Cards the WS.

  9. #34
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    Dude you can't play what-ifs.

    What if Arkansas played USC in the middle of the season instead of the first game?

    What if last year Arkansas got the calls they get this year?

    What if what if what if..

    Geez, do you people even READ before you type?

  10. #35
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    1. Michigan
    1a. Michigan State

    1. Never seen it coming. Though admittedly, I am not a huge college fball fan. But I do watch every game and nothing last year indicated the defense would this good. This year proves that coaches can literally make or break a squad.

    1a. Typical MSU season. Hope, disappointment, anger into drama, comedy and ultimately stoic reservation. Disappointment, per usual with anything green and white.

  11. #36
    All that, and yet you had to go to OT and block a kick to win. I'm not trying to say we should have won. I'm not even trying to say we deserved to win. However for you to say OSU couldn't have played much better is simply not true.

    Same arguement everyone is using on baseball forum, the tiggers handed the Cards the WS.
    all that? we made more mistakes than you guys did...and still won on the ROAD.

    and we are going to have to disagree then, cause while any team can play better, (i don't believe anyone is capable of playing their absolute best; there is always another level) OSU could not have played much or even any better without going to that last level or damn near it.

  12. #37
    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    all that? we made more mistakes than you guys did...and still won on the ROAD.

    and we are going to have to disagree then, cause while any team can play better, (i don't believe anyone is capable of playing their absolute best; there is always another level) OSU could not have played much or even any better without going to that last level or damn near it.
    Still you miss the point.

    Let's say, in your opinion, we played the absolute possible best we could have. In the end, what cost us the game? A mistake - a fumbled PAT.

    Therefore, our absolute best possible game was not without a critical error that cost us the game - which means there was room for improvement.

    Don't even get me started on gifting you 15 yards by kicking the ball out of boundson a knucklehead move. I'm QUITE certain that does not fit in the 'best possible game you could have played.'

  13. #38
    Still you miss the point.

    Let's say, in your opinion, we played the absolute possible best we could have. In the end, what cost us the game? A mistake - a fumbled PAT.

    Therefore, our absolute best possible game was not without a critical error that cost us the game - which means there was room for improvement.

    Don't even get me started on gifting you 15 yards by kicking the ball out of boundson a knucklehead move. I'm QUITE certain that does not fit in the 'best possible game you could have played.'
    i am not missing anything. you must understand that even when you play your best game it is not without mistakes. there is no such thing as perfection...it does not exist.

    did you play your best possible = no
    can you play your best possible = no
    did you play your best game to that point = yes

    ...i know nebraska was a big win for OSU, but i don't think you really played better in that game. i know the stats are better, but you had one more turnover and i don't think Nebraska is as good as A&M right now.

  14. #39
    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    1. Michigan
    1a. Michigan State

    1. Never seen it coming. Though admittedly, I am not a huge college fball fan. But I do watch every game and nothing last year indicated the defense would this good. This year proves that coaches can literally make or break a squad.

    1a. Typical MSU season. Hope, disappointment, anger into drama, comedy and ultimately stoic reservation. Disappointment, per usual with anything green and white.

    1a sounds a lot like the Honolulu Blue and Silver. That's why I am a Wolverine fan even though I am an MSU alumnus; I couldn't take the heartbreak twice every weekend.

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    1a sounds a lot like the Honolulu Blue and Silver. That's why I am a Wolverine fan even though I am an MSU alumnus; I couldn't take the heartbreak twice every weekend.

  16. #41
    Both my teams are doing well:

    * Texas (8-1, AP #4, BCS #7)
    * West Virginia (7-0, AP #3, BCS #3)

    I'd like to see them both match-up in a bowl game.

  17. #42
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    1a sounds a lot like the Honolulu Blue and Silver. That's why I am a Wolverine fan even though I am an MSU alumnus; I couldn't take the heartbreak twice every weekend.

    There is a scheduled football related press conference in East Lansing at 1:30 EST this afternoon. So, what is it going to be? John L. fired immediately, John L. fired at the end of the season? Both coordinators let go?

  18. #43
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    I think he is gone...and I hope so.

    That way they can bring in Mariucci.

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    I abhor ugliness Vizzini's Avatar
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    That way they can bring in Mariucci.

    As a Michigan fan, that would be the best thing for them to do. Mooch is not the type of coach they need. Neither is Brian Kelly, who is the coach at Central Michigan. MSU needs to find a hard ass defensive coordinator to come in and give the program the discipline it needs.

  20. #45
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    My Ohio State Buckeyes are doing great as well as Notre Dame.
    I'm disapointed overall in the Big Ten though.

  21. #46
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    Notre Dame!! I will not call the season a success or failure until after they play USC. Beat USC and get into a BCS game and win the bowl game, they will have had a successfull season. Lose to USC not successfull.

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    Notre Dame!! I will not call the season a success or failure until after they play USC. Beat USC and get into a BCS game and win the bowl game, they will have had a successfull season. Lose to USC not successfull.
    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

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