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Thanx, guys. At least I got an educated answer to a simple question and not the typical 13-year-old personal attack by leo.
But it's not a bad way to waste some time.
Thanx, guys. At least I got an educated answer to a simple question and not the typical 13-year-old personal attack by leo.
You've talked nothing but trash about MMA in the past...I think my replies were pretty civil. I figured you were just doing a bit by asking goofy questions...
do you have prove that any of these pride guys are better then liddell or even o? o beat silva did he not? and chuck will do the same to anyone of those steroid using chumps
Of course I don't have PROOF...just like you don't have proof that Chuck would beat all of the Pride guys!! I'm just going by what I see with my eyes when I was all these guys fight. What are you basing your opinion on?? How much Pride have you even watched??
Yes, o beat Silva 6 yrs ago...who cares about MMA math, especially when you're talking about 6 yrs ago. I can make it work against your argument just like you're trying to do to me...
I just want Liddell - Silva to happen so at least one argument can be settled. UFC fans thought Rich Franklin was an unbeatable badass too...but he ran into a middle of the pack MW that had mixed success in Pride and was thoroughly embarassed...
Silva is fighting Arona on New Year's Eve...was hoping for Little Nog instead...
i agree with chuck vs silva but i don't think dana wants it to happen even though he said he did
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I think Dana and Sakihabara(spelling?) want the fight to happen but nobody wants to give up the homecourt advantage.
If you ask me it's Pride's turn to send over some talent. Chuck's already fought in Pride 3 times and I'm pretty sure he was signed to UFC at the time. I can't think of any contracted Pride fighters that have been sent over to UFC.
I definately agree with you on that point.
Is this diff than Pride? I have dirctv and they hype Pride all the time. Is that just another show, like WWE has Raw and Smackdown or whatever? Or is it another league?
It's a different organization, based in Japan. While the UFC has mainly American fighters, Pride fighters come from all over the world, so while it's not as well known here in the states it has a much broader fan base in the rest of the world. They have lots of Japanese fighters, Russian, Brazilian, a few Americans...
Are these outcomes scripted, like WWE?
No. There have been a few fights that have been so bad there were rumors that they were fixed (Dan Severn is the one fighter attached to most of these rumors, because he's old, his fights are boring, and he was never very good to begin with), but the outcomes are not pre-determined.
Not flaming, but didn't most WWE fans say for years (and the WWE itself) that it wasn't scripted?
Didn't some journalist get whacked in the head 10 years ago or so for saying that to wrestler?
Not the fans - the WWE. The fans knew it was scripted. That's why pro wrestling is losing so many fans to fighting - because, unlike the usual recycled crap WWE story line, you actually don't know what's going to happen during a fight.
I wouldn't say that at all. Stone Cold was perhaps the biggest name in the sport for 5-6 years, and he lost a suprising amount of the time.
Of course. Don't you know that people love to see the hero finally triumph over his enemies after being knocked down, bloodied and bruised multiple times?
WWE type wrestling = COMPLETE GARBAGE
Who goes to those shows???!!!! Truly sad...
Surely you were joking, or have you really paid that little attention??
MMA is a sport...sanctioned just like boxing...
MMA is as real as it gets. You can go to Vegas and put money down any of the major fights.
It's ironic because the professional wrestling evolved from real compe ion like amateur wrestling ( freestyle & greco roman), early 1900's folk wrestling like traveling carnival/circus catch wrestling. Abraham Lincoln was actually a feared catch wrestler in his time. Now prowrestling is a joke. It had some merit in the 80's with creative characters, good guy vs bad guy storylines, but it's truely turned into garbage as of late.
Unfortunately, many prowrestlers are starting to incorporate mma techniques into their routines. I flipped on Monday Night Raw recently and saw the Undertaker wearing mma gloves and the announcers referred to him as "the most feared striker in sports entertainment." They also referred to his "dangerous submission skills". I was pretty pissed about it and a little worried that this could hurt the public's image of mma legitamacy. But wrestling has always imitated what's real so I guess I shouldn't be too concerned.
I predict that prowrestling model will soon evolve into a fake mma ripoff. We should've seen it coming when Ken Shamrock jumped ship for WWF.
Good points...
I don't like see WWE guys in MMA for the most part. Some have legit college wrestling backgrounds like Brock Lesnar (who IS training for MMA now).
I did enjoy seeing Sean O'Haire get KO'd a few weeks ago though...
Bart Gunn lost on Saturday (fought Minowa at the Bushido).
WWE fans think those guys are badasses, so it's good to see one get smashed every now and then, even if it doesn't do anything for the advancement of the sport...
How can you watch WWE when the guys dont even hit each other and sit on their knees and let someone through a fake knee in their face?
I don't watch WWE; I think it is just a fad, too.
From MMAWeekly.com:
BISPING OFF OF TUF4 CARD; OTHER UFC CHANGES
Monday, November 06, 2006 - by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com
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Staying busy as ever, the Ultimate Fighting Championship has two dates upcoming in as many weeks. As inevitably happens, there have been a few changes to both of the proposed fight cards, most notably the recent cancellation of Michael Bisping’s participation on this weekend’s The Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale on Saturday, November 11th.
Bisping was scheduled to face returning UFC veteran Eric Schafer. It is believed that there was trouble with him being able to secure his Visa, but it is unclear what the details of that situation are.
This is definitely a blow to the TUF 4 finale show as Bisping was slated to be on the televised portion of the event as he was the light heavyweight winner of season 3 of The Ultimate Fighter. He has also been present at recent UFC events signing autographs and doing other promotional activities.
His opponent, Schafer, said that the fight “is officially 100% off [as of] this morning.” Obviously disappointed, he is hopeful of a date with Bisping in the near future, “They were not expecting such a problem obviously... I guess they could not solve it on such short notice. There is no replacement [due to the timing], but they do plan on a match between Bisping and me rescheduled for December.”
Bisping was unable to comment on the particulars of his situation and being unable to fight this weekend. He did say that he believed that the UFC would be able to reschedule the fight for "sometime in December," though he does not know whether it would be on the December 13th UFC Fight Night show or on the December 30th UFC 66 card.
That's a damned shame, I always like watching Bisping fight... and now what are they going to do Saturday night? This was the main event.
^^^This is bad news. Bisping is a great fighter and super exciting to watch. I'm pretty bummed about this.
Big hit to the TUF Finale card...that blows...
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