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    Looks like the making of a very good team in Stillwater. Gundy has done a great job taking over where Miles left the team. I was impressed with the conditioning of the defense.

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    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    Yeah, good times. We have had a Top 25 recruiting class every year with the 1 exception being 2005, when it was 41st. Of course, it is not top 5 yearly like UT, but let's be honest we aren't at the level of competing with UT/uo, we are compeing with atm and tek. Even after Goodson was let go, OSU had a better class, numerically of course, than every team not UT/uo. This year's class will be small, and very targeted.

    Our facilities are 2nd to none, and still getting better. We are nationally ranked and compete for les yearly in many sports. We have more les in all of sports han any other B12 school (winning 2 more last year). We have won a le in just about every conceivable sport we compete in, except football. not saying we will ever get one, but this program can easily become akin to a Va Tech, being of major import yearly. When you get to that point, anything is possible. We have an Alum coach who isn't going anywhere. He is bringing back guys he played with and of his era (All Americans Sanders, Thomas, O'Neal, Moore have all made locker room pep talks). The days of us being afraid of bigger, more traditional teams is gone. Used to be the day that uo and Neb had a 14 point edge on a team the moment they walked on the field because of the intimidation factor; not anymore. We had 1 win in 28 years vs uo. Since then we have 5 of the past 11 during the years they played for 3 BCS les (if not for OSU they would have played for at least 2 more). We had not beaten Neb since 1962. Now we have won 2 of the last 3. We had not beaten atm since 1988. Now we have won 2 of the past 5. UT is the one team we haven't beaten (since 1997), and even them we have had down at the half several times before monumental collaspes. Playing in the toughest division in football certainly doesn't help I might add.

    While OSU oesn't always fully sell out home games, we are a tremendous road draw. We travel very well wherever we go, and thus are a vauled commodity to Bowl people. To aid in recruiting, we yearly travel to a road game in hot recruiting areas for us (Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulsa). Also, many big programs won't do home-at-homes with small schools. They sign the small schools to only come there. OSU takes a diff approach. They have been doing many 2-for-1s, and going to play at the small school or at the very least a neutral site. The Ark State game was played at a neutral site (War Memorial in Little Rock), OSU sold half the stadium. Ark State signed a 2-for-1. We played Florida Atl at Dolphins' Stadium and got a 2-for-1 with them. We played La Tech at the Independence Bowl in a 2-or-1. Believe it or not, I am pretty sure we got Houston in a 2-for-1. We got Rice in a 2-for-1, but they are trying to get out of it now.

    We don't have 40k bandwagon, nonalum type fans like our evil red headed step sister to the south, but we have a very hard core passionate fan base that supports all sports. Anyone go to the girl's soccer tourney here in town and see all the OSU Orange? That's another thing I really dig about OSU. You go to the game - you wear Orange. You don't dress up and look all pretty to show off to everyone; you wear Orange. Every Friday, any day of the year, is Orange Friday. I can't remember when I haven't called it that. Ok, so it's not the koolaid they drink down in the Cult of Bryant, but we don't have the tradition they have, either (or the cute male yellers in those spiffy overalls showing them what to say the night before). We don't even have an over .500 record in the history of our program. But everyone has to start somewhere. I believe we are doing a dern spiffy job.

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    Well done. It would be good to see OSU give the B12 a run for their money...makes the whole conference better.

    Two questions for the good Captain...

    You think you can take the Bedlam game this year?
    Do you think someone who is a fan of a school, but not an alum, is a bandwagoner?

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    I think we can beat uo any given year. It happens that we are decent and it is at our house this year, which we seem to fare better. If we are healthy going into the game, I really like our chances.

    The comment you might understand a little more if you were in Oklahoma, but snorman has a huge share of people and families that identify with uo football because it has been a power so long. Many of them have no connection with the school, but they sure go out and fly their WalMart car flags whenever they have a big win.

    OSU does not have the luxury of these 'bandwagon' fans, because our history is limited. If you were a football fan, with no allegiance, you simply did not grow up an OSU fan because you were automatically the 'loser' in the state football race (as I said, 1 win in 28 years). The media outlets are all very pro uo (not to mention the paper is owned by the biggest donor in uo history). It is very inbred - uo beats OSU, it is a story and a given. OSU beats uo and that's not the main headline, it is what uo did to lose the game. The 2 biggest central population centers are all uo fan stongholds. Just the accepted way it is and has always been. They want to point out that they sell out 90k a game and we scratch 48k a game. However, those 48k are there for OSU - rain or shine. We brought 35k to both the Cotton Bowl and the Alamo Bowl (still the largest Alamo Bowl crowd not involving a Texas team). We brought 30k to the Houston Bowl. When we go to SMU and Ark State and Houston and Tulsa and Baylor, we are half the stadium. During this whole time, you have never been able to mistake us for a BCS contender. Since our breakthru win at uo in 1995, we have had 7 losing seasons in 12 years. And still we come, not to be on the bandwagon, but because we are fans.

    IMO, OSU fans are the most loyal in the B12 behind Neb (who are not only the best fanbase, but the most hospitable and just a friendly lot in general) and the Cult of Bryan.

    After all, 'Real Fans Wear Orange'.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    The comment you might understand a little more if you were in Oklahoma, but snorman has a huge share of people and families that identify with uo football because it has been a power so long. Many of them have no connection with the school, but they sure go out and fly their WalMart car flags whenever they have a big win.
    I understood the comment just fine, thank you.

    I wasn't speaking of OSU vs. OU specifically.....I meant fans in general.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Bump.

    Still waiting Captain.

    Don't sweat it though....I am going to re-ask in another thread.




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