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    I think that Toronto's biggest mistake is to try to play uptempo. Their franchise player is Bosh, not Nash.
    And the Rasho trade was a big steal, I still can't believe that a team has taken Rasho's contract without asking somethnig like a pick to sweaten his contract.
    Well they did get rid of 2 useless players and got cash. Plus they're under the cap, so they don't care about his salary.

    I also think they shouldn't play uptempo, but right now they have a deep and versatile team, so i think they can pull it off.

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    12" rims

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    Im thinking he didnt get a 1970 Grand Prix, he probably got the 2006...


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    Well they did get rid of 2 useless players and got cash. Plus they're under the cap, so they don't care about his salary.
    It's a good deal for Toronto but I think that they could have get a better Rasho deal. They were likely the only team ready to take Rasho's contract and Spurs really wanted to trade him.
    I can be wrong (I'm not a GM after all), but this is my feeling.

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    It does seem odd that Toronto threw in two 2nd rounders in the Nesterovic deal. It seems the Spurs would have been happy with the trade as it was (Rasho+cash for Bonner+Williams). The F.O. must have pretended to be unhappy with the amount of talent they got back. Good deal.

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    It does seem odd that Toronto threw in two 2nd rounders in the Nesterovic deal. It seems the Spurs would have been happy with the trade as it was (Rasho+cash for Bonner+Williams). The F.O. must have pretended to be unhappy with the amount of talent they got back. Good deal.
    Absolute steal of a deal.

    I wonder now if the Spurs will keep those picks or trade them. Seeing as how they're fiscally conscious I could see them packaging them up for something else.

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    I'm sure Rasho will like it in Toronto because they suck and there will be absolutely no pressure on him to do anything, which fits his style of play, that being passive, unathletic, and specializing in no arc line drive jumpers. But his position defense is great!

    But I was intriqued to read that all his best friends on the team were white.

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    Well, if Chicago has a great season (top 9), we're looking at 3 second rounders next year, not to mention the late first rounder.

    Even with one slated for some distant foreign prospect, there's no way we have 3 rookies on the team next year (+Butler, +maybe White). I'd have to think at least one or two of those gets punted in moves like the trade to Milwaukee last year (this year's pick for next year's pick). My guess is they'll try to package those picks to move up in the draft, though, maybe attaching Scola, into the late lottery, maybe trying for Corey Brewer or someone.

    Anyway, I expect a higher profile rookie on the squad next year than we've had in a while.

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    I'm sure Rasho will like it in Toronto because they suck and there will be absolutely no pressure on him to do anything, which fits his style of play, that being passive, unathletic, and specializing in no arc line drive jumpers. But his position defense is great!

    But I was intriqued to read that all his best friends on the team were white.
    Trying to say that Rasho doesn't bond with the brothas?

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    The Raptors got ripped off in the Rasho deal hardcore. They took on a contract that nobody else in the league wanted plus gave up two expiring contract and a second round pick. The Spurs couldn't give Rasho away the last couple years.

    If the Raptors would have just kept Bonner and Williams' expiring contracts, they would have been massively under the salary cap next summer and could have landed two max contract players.

    Instead they have Rasho.

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    Well, if Chicago has a great season (top 9), we're looking at 3 second rounders next year, not to mention the late first rounder.

    Even with one slated for some distant foreign prospect, there's no way we have 3 rookies on the team next year (+Butler, +maybe White). I'd have to think at least one or two of those gets punted in moves like the trade to Milwaukee last year (this year's pick for next year's pick). My guess is they'll try to package those picks to move up in the draft, though, maybe attaching Scola, into the late lottery, maybe trying for Corey Brewer or someone.

    Anyway, I expect a higher profile rookie on the squad next year than we've had in a while.
    That would be absolutely wonderful.

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    I'm sure Rasho will like it in Toronto because they suck and there will be absolutely no pressure on him to do anything, which fits his style of play, that being passive, unathletic, and specializing in no arc line drive jumpers. But his position defense is great!

    But I was intriqued to read that all his best friends on the team were white.
    You're an idiot!

    Sorry let me rephrase that: You're an illiterate idiot!

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    Well, if Chicago has a great season (top 9), we're looking at 3 second rounders next year, not to mention the late first rounder.

    Even with one slated for some distant foreign prospect, there's no way we have 3 rookies on the team next year (+Butler, +maybe White).
    Spurs still need to do a trade to go under the luxury tax before the deadline, they will maybe lose a second round pick in a trade with a team under the cap like Williams + cash + 2nd round pick for nothing.

    And Spurs should draft Yannick Bokolo with a late second round pick : this guy can become a solid backup PG.

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    What? A Grand Prix??



    Bad Ass.

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    Riding a VIA bus to the games would have made Bonner an instant legend.

    Bummer.

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    Rasho >>>> Bonner . Red rocket can shot just for 3 point and nothing else. Rasho is way better in defense and under the rim that Bonner. For me that trade sucks. We could get a lot better player for Rasho.
    While I agree that Rasho was probably the best player involved in the trade, I think it was well worth it. There's now a decent amount of open cap room for the next offseason.

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    I don't understand how/why he considers a Grand Prix to get good gas mileage. Although leg room + good gas mileage is kind of a hard combination. I'm a little su ious of his environmentalist qualifications, but he does have a good sense of humor--12" rims and the stock radio? Pretty sweet.

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    While I agree that Rasho was probably the best player involved in the trade, I think it was well worth it. There's now a decent amount of open cap room for the next offseason.
    For who? We won't have cap room.

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    I think the red rocket refers to the streetcars in downtown Toronto. The subways IIRC are not red. I know it's completely irrelevant, but it was bugging me.
    they use the "red rocket" for all TTC (toronto transit commission) services i think

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    After the Spurs arrived in town Saturday night, Nesterovic took Fabricio Oberto, Beno Udrih, Brent Barry and Manu Ginobili, his best friend on the team, to dinner.
    Blatantly racist!

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    I don't understand how/why he considers a Grand Prix to get good gas mileage. Although leg room + good gas mileage is kind of a hard combination. I'm a little su ious of his environmentalist qualifications, but he does have a good sense of humor--12" rims and the stock radio? Pretty sweet.
    Leg room is OK (I'm 6'6") but head room isn't all that and mileage is 25-30 at best.

    Civics get you more in all categories and they look GOOD in 12" rims.

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    Well, if Chicago has a great season (top 9), we're looking at 3 second rounders next year, not to mention the late first rounder.

    Even with one slated for some distant foreign prospect, there's no way we have 3 rookies on the team next year (+Butler, +maybe White). I'd have to think at least one or two of those gets punted in moves like the trade to Milwaukee last year (this year's pick for next year's pick). My guess is they'll try to package those picks to move up in the draft, though, maybe attaching Scola, into the late lottery, maybe trying for Corey Brewer or someone.

    Anyway, I expect a higher profile rookie on the squad next year than we've had in a while.
    If the Spurs don't unload some picks + a player to lessen their luxury tax hit, I see them really reaching on some very obscure players in hopes that one of them will pan out. The secret has been out for a while and it is getting harder and harder for teams to pick up that overseas diamond-in-the-rough type of player. It almost seems that teams do more research on foreign players than they do US players.

    By doing this, the Spurs don't have to pick up any fringe players that may never make it and can concentrate on now (winning championships). If one of them works out, great, if not, it's the same as burning the picks now on borderline talent that doesn't make it out of training camp.

    Of course, they will probably trade their first rounder (guaranteed salary) but if one of their second rounders is just outside the first round, they may get lucky and catch a potential 15-20 pick that free falls to them (seems to happen at least once every draft). We can hope.

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