Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 68
  1. #26
    Displaced 101A's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Post Count
    7,711
    you ing radical right s love to play picayune gotchas on the personal/morality level, but whistle past HUGE corruption, ear marks, and quid-pro-quo influence peddling like this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/15/wa...rtner=homepage

    " WASHINGTON, Dec. 14 — By slipping four sentences into a big bill passed last week, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert secured a major change in Medicare policy avidly sought by a few health insurers, in particular a multinational company with headquarters in his home state, Illinois.

    Senator Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada, got special treatment for a ho e in his state.

    In the final hours of the 109th Congress, the Senate Democratic leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, also got special treatment for a ho e in his state. The bill did not name the ho e, but specified the Medicare provider number for the intended beneficiary, the Nathan Adelson Ho e in rural Pahrump, Nev."

    ================

    ALL politicians and the entire system are guilty of corruption until proven innocent.

    Even if Pelosi gets her outside ethics watchdog panel, it will be toothless and as corrupt and compromised as what the watchdog is supposed to watch.

    And we all know self-regulation NEVER worsks which is which corps fight for self-regulation and the corps and Repugs fight against/destroy regulation, unprotecting the consumers and the environment so the corps can game the system unhassled by regulations and transparency.

    Nice Post.

    Person = Greedy

    Politician = Person with Power

    Greedy Person with Power = Politician

    We cannot change that people are greedy, or that politicians are a necessary evil.

    WE MUST limit the amount of power politicians have, otherwise we're just stupid, and get what we deserve.

  2. #27
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    10,571
    Nice Post.

    Person = Greedy

    Politician = Person with Power

    Greedy Person with Power = Politician

    We cannot change that people are greedy, or that politicians are a necessary evil.

    WE MUST limit the amount of power politicians have, otherwise we're just stupid, and get what we deserve.

  3. #28
    2 Kings 9:20
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    240
    Wow, between this and Jenna Bush's partying I'm not sure which party to vote for.

    Why cast a vote for either party?

  4. #29
    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Post Count
    10,571
    Why cast a vote for either party?
    ...right over your head.

  5. #30
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    I am a little bit flabbergasted that so many people
    like your self are flocking to Obama
    I'm not flocking to Obama -- I really don't know much about him. I am simply amused at your abject fear of him and resultant digging for any possible dirt your little peepants can find.

    The emphasis on his middle name is real, just like the rest of this character assassination ploy you are being used to perpetuate.

    Business as usual, as you said.

  6. #31
    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    13,614
    I think just about right after Barack Obama spoke at Saddleback Church, the GOP starting panicking.

    (Obama is awfully green though.)

  7. #32
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Post Count
    15,842
    "Obama is awfully green though."

    He's a more talented, experienced, natural politician than dubya was in 2000, or dubya ever will be. Obama is smart, can speak English eloquently, and obviously loves mixing it up with people.

    dubya is the anti-politician conscripted as puppet/proxy for Repug puppet-meisters exploiting the "Bush franchise", as Hollywood types would say.

  8. #33
    Retired Ray xrayzebra's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Post Count
    9,096
    "Obama is awfully green though."

    He's a more talented, experienced, natural politician than dubya was in 2000, or dubya ever will be. Obama is smart, can speak English eloquently, and obviously loves mixing it up with people.

    dubya is the anti-politician conscripted as puppet/proxy for Repug puppet-meisters exploiting the "Bush franchise", as Hollywood types would say.

    And Maureen and the Lib press are going to toughen him up. Big ears
    and all. And his fear of being shot. What a guy.

    Now boutons, he has all these attributes, what has he done, other than
    get elected as a Senator? At the very least Bush was governor of
    Texas and elected twice to that office. Obama, well he made a couple
    of reallly good real estate deals. You know like the normal dimm-o-crap.

  9. #34
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Post Count
    11,409
    And Maureen and the Lib press are going to toughen him up. Big ears
    and all. And his fear of being shot. What a guy.

    Now boutons, he has all these attributes, what has he done, other than
    get elected as a Senator? At the very least Bush was governor of
    Texas and elected twice to that office. Obama, well he made a couple
    of reallly good real estate deals. You know like the normal dimm-o-crap.

    So Bush won 2 elections in a predominantly red state..that's an accomplishment.. ? He did manage to buy a baseball team with trust fund money

  10. #35
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    Don't forget he added to the value of the Rangers using tax money from Arlington so he could sell the team at a profit.

  11. #36
    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Post Count
    13,614
    "Obama is awfully green though."

    He's a more talented, experienced, natural politician than dubya was in 2000,
    That's hardly a high bar to clear.

  12. #37
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    I'm not flocking to Obama -- I really don't know much about him. I am simply amused at your abject fear of him and resultant digging for any possible dirt your little peepants can find.

    The emphasis on his middle name is real, just like the rest of this character assassination ploy you are being used to perpetuate.

    Business as usual, as you said.
    So if he's crooked, so what about if people are digging up crap?

    Are you more forgiving since he has a D before his name.

  13. #38
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Post Count
    15,842
    "That's hardly a high bar to clear."

    yes, says more about dubya than it does about Obama. But if dubya could get elected with much less smarts and talent the Obama, Obama has a chance.

    I think the enthusiasm for Obama is somewhat based on the extreme thirst for a politician who has some smarts and can communicate them, after the desert of dubya.

    A lot depends on how Obama does in the Senate in the next 18 months.

  14. #39
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    So if he's crooked, so what about if people are digging up crap?

    Are you more forgiving since he has a D before his name.
    Nah, I'm just telling you guys this isn't enough to derail a presidential candidacy. It's on the level of Cheney's ties with Haliburton, which turned out to be a nonissue as well.

    Do you really think you are going to change any of his supporters' minds by saying "Obama paid above market price for a piece of land!" Find a quid pro quo or find something else to throw at him. This one as it is isn't working.

    Remember Whitewater? That sure ran the Clintons out of politics. You sure showed them.

  15. #40
    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    12,476
    unless he;s bum- ing a 14 yr old male pros ute on tape paid for with illionois citizens tax dollars, snorting blow off his back that was bought with $$ from a Iranian gun deal..

    I don't care.

  16. #41
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    Point proven.

    You'll have to do better. Try making things up.

  17. #42
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    unless he;s bum- ing a 14 yr old male pros ute on tape paid for with illionois citizens tax dollars, snorting blow off his back that was bought with $$ from a Iranian gun deal..

    I don't care.

    Sounds like Delay did exactly that,.......wait.

  18. #43
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    Point proven.

    You'll have to do better. Try making things up.


    HE just needs to be indicted, that's what did Tom Delay.

  19. #44
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    Indicted on what charge?

  20. #45
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    Indicted on what charge?
    On whatever they bring up like they did to Delay.

    That's what.

  21. #46
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    On whatever they bring up like they did to Delay.
    Which was what?

    Can't you be specific?

  22. #47
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    Charges of Conspiracy?

    Does that sound familiar to delay?

  23. #48
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    That's the specific law?

  24. #49
    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Post Count
    154,406
    Conspiracy to buy land?

  25. #50
    Believe. gtownspur's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    3,906
    Conspiracy to buy land?

    Overappraised land knowingly to a crooked man which could indicate that Obama was trying to launder some money to this guy.

    If it was seriously overpriced, then there could have been some you scratch my back I scratch yours.


    We'll wait and see.

    Remember, its not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •