League probing Francis' injury

[spurtime]

I do think it's deliberate, but I also like the fear he puts in opponents' hearts...Plus it's their ankles not mine, so...

[Stand]

Talk about a bunch of homers. It would be one thing if this was the first time Bruce has done this, but it is a pretty common thing on his part. After about the third time this stopped being an accident.

[spurtime]

Talk about a bunch of homers. It would be one thing if this was the first time Bruce has done this, but it is a pretty common thing on his part. After about the third time this stopped being an accident.

I agree that I'm a homer and I agree it isn't an accident...I just don't care.

[bobbyjoe]

I love Bruce, but I have to admit I'm su ious about this. This appears to be such an unncessary tactic. The only sceanrios by which a defender can slide that far underneath a shooter while he's airborne is either the court is wet or the act is deliberate.

I don't think this is a tactic that he or any other player in the league should use. Any such tactic that "unnecessarily" increases the risk toward player injury should be outlawed.

Obviously, there are already enough situations that take place on the court where the risk of injury is great that cannot be avoided. This is one situation that can be avoided.

Personally, I hope the league advises ALL players to avoid using this tactic.

They only need to advise one player to stop using this tactic, because there's only one guy in the NBA who does it!

I love the honesty that some are showing here, it's very refreshing "Bruce's dirty but since he's a Spur I don't care who he goes out to injure"

[spurtime]

I love the honesty that some are showing here, it's very refreshing "Bruce's dirty but since he's a Spur I don't care who he goes out to injure"

Thanks

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Bowen's job is to lock down on a scorer every night. That means he's covering the guy on the other team who typically takes more shots than anyone else times 82 games. If Bowen wanted to do it on purpose he could probably snap about six ankles a year. If nothing else, mathematically it should happen by accident a dozen times more often with Bowen than with anyone else. It doesn't. It's weak gamesmanship by a bunch of losers.

[bobbyjoe]

You can be a lock down defender without sliding your foot underneath a hot shooter to try take him out.

See Andre Kirilenko, Sean Marion, Gary Payton in his day, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, etc.

There's a huge difference between good hard nosed defense and being dirty. There's a reason that people didnt call any of the aforementioned players Dirty but respected their D.

Those guys also aggressively defended the other team's best scorer every night, but you never saw them undercut others as often as Bruce does.

[spurtime]

These are professional athletes and the ultimate goal is to win a le. If they don't like what Bruce is doing, too bad. Find another field of work that doesn't risk ankle sprains.

[Amarelooms]

These are professional athletes and the ultimate goal is to win a le. If they don't like what Bruce is doing, too bad. Find another field of work that doesn't risk ankle sprains.

Or just do what Josh Howard did and pimp slap Bowen....

[smeagol]

Bowen does have a bad habit, intentional or not, of turning toward the basket and stepping back with one foot after contesting a jumpshooter, while the shooter is in the air. He needs to stop that.

Just as much as Manu should turn his flopping doen a notch.

[spurtime]

Or just do what Josh Howard did and pimp slap Bowen....

And risk getting kicked out of the game? Exactly what we want...go ahead.

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You can be a lock down defender without sliding your foot underneath a hot shooter to try take him out.

Which Bruce does about 85-90 times a year. Again, if he were trying to do it it'd happen way more often and he certainly woudn't do it against the worst team in the league.

At least Francis went straight up and Bowen's foot was there, which means they could have whistled him for a foul. Crawford jumped two feet forward, so Isiah is a ing idiot for getting his ass in the air over it.

[Stand]

Which Bruce does about 85-90 times a year. Again, if he were trying to do it it'd happen way more often and he certainly woudn't do it against the worst team in the league.

He does happen more often, but not everyone gets hurt.

Following the Ray Allen crying to the media I was watching SA v. the Lakers, and keep in mind that at this time I thought all the stuff about Bruce was BS. Then plain as day Bruce does it to Kobe, and no it don't look in any way, shape, or form accidental. Kobe looked pissed as , but kept his complaints in the game.

[boutons_]

Bruce under-cutting Vince was a 3G shot.

If Bruce is boxing out 15 - 30 ft from the rim, Bruce facing and putting his foot outward to the shooter is a pretty weird way to box out. But he's not boxing out, he's under-cutting the shooter. Bruce must stop it, it won't crimp his game, or end up being known as Mr. Reasonable, Mature Nice Guy in interviews and with homers with an enduring rep for under-cutting shooters among the players and coaches.

[Obstructed_View]

He does happen more often, but not everyone gets hurt.

Following the Ray Allen crying to the media I was watching SA v. the Lakers, and keep in mind that at this time I thought all the stuff about Bruce was BS. Then plain as day Bruce does it to Kobe, and no it don't look in any way, shape, or form accidental. Kobe looked pissed as , but kept his complaints in the game.

The only game against the Lakers after the Sonics that year was 26 games later. Are you trying to tell me that someone lands on Bowen's foot every 26 games but only two in his entire career have gotten hurt? How again does that make Bowen dirty?

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Bruce under-cutting Vince was a 3G shot.

If Bruce is boxing out 15 - 30 ft from the rim, Bruce facing and putting his foot outward to the shooter is a pretty weird way to box out. But he's not boxing out, he's under-cutting the shooter. Bruce must stop it, it won't crimp his game, or end up being known as Mr. Reasonable, Mature Nice Guy in interviews and with homers with an enduring rep for under-cutting shooters among the players and coaches.

Yeah, because the NBA officials and the league office are homers.

[ChumpDumper]

Manu and Tim have turned ankles landing on Dirk, therefore Dirk is dirty.

Right?

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Manu and Tim have turned ankles landing on Dirk, therefore Dirk is dirty.

Right?

Must be. Kirilenko is out with a sprained ankle. Time for the league to investigate Ersan Ilyasova.

[LilMissSPURfect]

You can be a lock down defender without sliding your foot underneath a hot shooter to try take him out.

See Andre Kirilenko, Sean Marion, Gary Payton in his day, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, etc.
There's a huge difference between good hard nosed defense and being dirty. There's a reason that people didnt call any of the aforementioned players Dirty but respected their D.

Those guys also aggressively defended the other team's best scorer every night, but you never saw them undercut others as often as Bruce does.

And which one of the aforementioned isn't an ass kissing all star.....of course it's easy to point fingers at bruce he's a nobody...is shaq dirty too? ...RJ landed on his big ass foot but you don't hear the league investigating
good lord ....it must be part of playing ball ! the way i see it...we are all quick to judge...why can't it be about basketball....Francis sprained his foot...KNICKS got their ass kicked...(twice) bruce did his job [played the uncultivated defense] and spurs won...leave it on the floor!!!!!!

[phxspurfan]

Manu and Tim have turned ankles landing on Dirk, therefore Dirk is dirty.

Right?

Absolutely. Dirk is straight up Eurotrash.

[ponky]

oh how nice of stu, he'll hold little bruce's hand to HELP HIM STOP...jesus christ, he's not in frickin' rehab, just tell him to cut the already, i wonder who he's blowing to get away with all the crap he's able to pull, it's pretty damn impressive even if annoying

[phxspurfan]

And which one of the aforementioned isn't an ass kissing all star.....of course it's easy to point fingers at bruce he's a nobody...is shaq dirty too? ...RJ landed on his big ass foot but you don't hear the league investigating
good lord ....it must be part of playing ball ! the way i see it...we are all quick to judge...why can't it be about basketball....Francis sprained his foot...KNICKS got their ass kicked...(twice) bruce did his job [played the uncultivated defense] and spurs won...leave it on the floor!!!!!!

have you ever had this happen to you? Undercutting its a dirty play every time and completely preventable.

[Kori Ellis]

oh how nice of stu, he'll hold little bruce's hand to HELP HIM STOP...jesus christ, he's not in frickin' rehab, just tell him to cut the already, i wonder who he's blowing to get away with all the crap he's able to pull, it's pretty damn impressive even if annoying

I understood the league already has reviewed it after Isiah's complaint and has decided to take no action.

Is that incorrect?

[ponky]

I understood the league already has reviewed it after Isiah's complaint and has decided to take no action.

Is that incorrect?

Of course it's not incorrect, the league will do nothing when it comes to Bowen and his antics, he's a GRRRRRRRRREAT defensive player. Excuse my sarcasm, it's really annoying for most people that aren't Spurs fans, nothing personal. Anyway, it will be interesting to watch the Spurs/Rockets game Tuesday night.

[TDMVPDPOY]

stu and stern is not goin to do anything......they scared bruce bowen will wait for them outside there office and slide his foot under them and break their ankles......