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    Tony might easily have had a dozen assists tonight, if the perimeter guys had hit anything.
    This isn't about Tony's near misses on assists because of other guys hitting. It's about him dishing out turnover after turnover in the fourth and OT while trying to force the issue.

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    tp was averaging 1.9 turnovers a game
    last year 3.1 last year

    I think his turnovers are going down!

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    I thought Parker was awesome. I thought it was ballsy how he stuck that three at the OT buzzer. Made the final score more respectable, so I'll sleep better tonight. :p

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    Both sides come off ing re ed in this thread.

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    and manu is averaging 2.3 turnovers a game

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    tp's turnovers are down this year to last
    so his lack of turnovers have improved

    Who gives a about last year? The only thing I care about is what happened tonight. Bottom line. TP was the turnover leader for the Spurs. No matter how you slice it, it isn't good dip .

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    I am not worried about either Tony or Manu. People need to chill, its a B2B and its NOV-FREAKIN-VEMBER!!!

    Spurs win it all this year!!

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    Manu 3-14....12 points, 12 rebound, 7 assists, 1 block, 1 steal, 1 TO
    TP 11-22.... 25 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 6 TOs

    NEXT
    You would have ripped Parker for shooting 3-14, no matter what the other numbers were.

    You haters need to recognize: Tony Parker will be a Spur for about 5-6 years after Manu is gone and retired. You'd better get used to him playing a big role on this team, or find another team. I don't think I've ever seen a group of fans absolutely HATE an All Star player from their team. It's just sad.

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    Tony sucked but it looked like he was trying to take a bigger role in crunch time and I think that was by design. People always complain that Tony disappears in the fourth, but that's mostly due to no play calls coming his way. This time Pop went to him in the fourth and Parker had his ups and downs (mostly downs).

    However, if you want Parker to come up big in big games, you have to get his feet wet. I'd like to see the Spurs use him more in the fourth in close games as an offensive option so he's ready for that in the playoffs. It'd be nice to have another play at the end of games other than a clear out for Manu.
    I agree
    they need to go to him more why
    because you never know in playoffs if everyone is going to be healthy

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    Why not? You've proven he was shooting better.
    So? It's not about shooting. Did Manu have 4 TO's in the 4th Q? All im saying is Manu's a better player and he understands the game wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than TP.

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    I don't get the mentalities of some of these board people.

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    Who gives a about last year? The only thing I care about is what happened tonight. Bottom line. TP was the turnover leader for the Spurs. No matter how you slice it, it isn't good dip .
    did I say it was good
    he has less turnovers then manu though THIS YEAR
    manu has had games where has had more turnovers then 6

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    All im saying is
    You're angry because they lost.

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    Manu is the 2nd best player
    When TP starts playing well, he thinks he is unstoppable and starts turning the ball over ; no wonder why Pop yells at him on occasion
    TP is at his best when he is the 3rd option

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    Manu is the 2nd best player
    When TP starts playing well, he thinks he is unstoppable and starts turning the ball over ; no wonder why Pop yells at him on occasion
    TP is at his best when he is the 3rd option
    manu has not been the 2 best player for 2 years

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    You're angry because they lost.
    No, im not angry. I'm just surprised at the Tony Parker d*ckriding in this board. He's a selfish player who only cares about his stats and Manu is wayyy better than him.

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    tp would be benched if he did not obey pop

    he has been and will be benched in the future
    pop benches everyone even duncan

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    You guys are the biggest bunch of whiners I have ever seen! Quit your crying. It is pathetic.

    Parker is learning how to play with a jumper in his game for the first time. As the season progresses he will learn to mix it with his penetrations. Meanwhile, this has been a terrible start to the season for both Finley and Manu.

    Thru seven games Ginobili has averaged a career low FG%, 3 pt %, and steals. Parker's assit-to-turnover ratio is MUCH better than Manu's, as are his FG% and 3 pt %. The kid is still 24 while Manu is pushing 30 and looking 40.

    What I don't understand is why this surprises anyone who claims to be a Spurs fan? If you were a fan then you would be able to recognize the obvious.

    Last night the Spurs won because of their bench. Tonight that same bench shot 35% for the game, and that with Finley's BEST game of the season. What's sad is that is pretty good compared to Manu, Bowen, and Oberto who went a combined 5/26 for just 19% shooting. Duncan and Parker were 21/42, 50%. Not bad for the guys being blamed for this loss.

    Its a long season and the Spurs biggest challenge will be the mental hurdle of winning the second game of a back-to-back. I expect them to lose 50% of their second games this season until they can prove otherwise. This loss does not surprise me in the least. If you were a fan, if you understood this team, it would not surprise you either.

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    No, im not angry. I'm just surprised at the Tony Parker d*ckriding in this board. He's a selfish player who only cares about his stats and Manu is wayyy better than him.
    Pop would have benched or traded him a LONG time ago if that were true. You just hate his ass. Admit it.

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    Manu is the 2nd best player
    When TP starts playing well, he thinks he is unstoppable and starts turning the ball over ; no wonder why Pop yells at him on occasion
    TP is at his best when he is the 3rd option
    Quoted for truth.

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    wrong
    tp was allstar manu was not last year

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    No, im not angry. I'm just surprised at the Tony Parker d*ckriding in this board. He's a selfish player who only cares about his stats and Manu is wayyy better than him.
    Nah, Tony does whatever Pop tells him to do. You have a poor understanding of this team.

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    When TP starts playing well, he thinks he is unstoppable and starts turning the ball over
    If that was true, how could be averaging less than 2 turnovers and over 20 points. That would seem to mean that he was playing well and NOT turning the ball over. (I'm not talking about tonight, the prior six games).

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    manu has not been the 2 best player for 2 years
    That's because unlike Parker he is a total team player ; who was the 2nd option when we won in 2005 ???

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    ho yesterday i was afraid : TP make a bad game and noone open a thread
    but now i can see all the haters are always here and always stupid.
    nothing change

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