another question about James White

[ChumpDumper]

I honestly don't understand the Spurs' reluctance to use the NBDL, it seems that White, Butler, Mahinimi, and Sandizikide would be better suited getting some burn there then sitting on the benches of their respective clubs.

Butler has been in the league two seasons and can't be sent down.

As for Ian and Viktor, I think the Spurs' line of reasoning has something to do with the fact that they have a much better idea of how those players are to be used in Europe since their rosters are set at around the same time NBA rosters are if not sooner. D-League training camp has just started and we just got an idea of where our players might fit like a week ago. That's what has given me some encouragement that White could be sent down -- the Toros really seem to be lacking in quality swingmen. Last season that was definitely not the case, and this season the Toros are pretty loaded up front. Three solid guys are coming back, though Ian or Viktor would probably be able to find some good minutes if they respond to DJ's coaching.

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs would have to start paying Sanikidze for him to go to the NBDL and Mahinmi's base rookie contract would start up for him to play in the NBDL, correct? They would also need roster spots on the Spurs.

Butler, as said, is not an option, though he did have some good years in minor league-type ball. I'd like to see James White move down. Maybe the staff want him to absorb more of the professional mentality of the team. Also, for all intents and purposes, as he was signed Nov. 2 or so, he hasn't even been through the time equivalent of a month of training camp.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs would have to start paying Sanikidze for him to go to the NBDL and Mahinmi's base rookie contract would start up for him to play in the NBDL, correct? They would also need roster spots on the Spurs.

Correct.

I'd like to see James White move down. Maybe the staff want him to absorb more of the professional mentality of the team. Also, for all intents and purposes, as he was signed Nov. 2 or so, he hasn't even been through the time equivalent of a month of training camp.

Absolutely. I have written that I think the Toros' homestand around Christmas would be a good time to send White down to see him actually play some games. He will have had a good six weeks with the Spurs to pick up as much as he can, and he would be be evaluated before his contract becomes guaranteed.

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs would have to start paying Sanikidze for him to go to the NBDL and Mahinmi's base rookie contract would start up for him to play in the NBDL, correct? They would also need roster spots on the Spurs.

Correct.

That's one rule I wish they would change. I wish you could send two guys down PLUS have 15 guys on your real roster.

[ChumpDumper]

Correct.

That's one rule I wish they would change. I wish you could send two guys down PLUS have 15 guys on your real roster.

I suppose that might change if more NBA teams actually get their own farm teams like the Lakers did. If they really wanted to work the system, they could have a de facto 24-man roster and be able to send up or down players at their leisure.

I also guess if more teams choose to assign players to the D-League for the entire season, that may also have an effect on the roster rules. I think currently the most egregious rule is having to waive a D-League player if NBA teams assign too many of their players to your team. These guys don't make as it is, and having them miss some checks just because an NBA team wanted to check out their rookie is just wrong.

[CavsSuperFan]

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[Sam]

Can't you only send first and second year players down to D-League?

[dg7md]

I just think it'd be a breath of fresh air to have a Spur in the dunk contest, and James White would fit that bill perfectly.

Just some media attention once in a while would be nice!

[BIG IRISH]

It's not a good sign that he's a Cincinnati player, which produces some of the most boneheaded basketball players. Not only that, he was there during the Bob Huggins ordeal, so had even less basketball instruction than normal. It's highly unlikely he develops into a player.

Mr. Body, your statement is what makes me believe that James can turn around.

I agree with you when you state that he was in Cincy during the ordeal and was more than likely under-instructed by Higgins.
However, coach Pop and his staff have been known to be great teachers of the game and have proven to develop players, so things could easily change for White.

Steven Jackson didn't have the defense, nor the athletic skills of White, and he bounced around the basketball world and finally developed in SA under Pop and the staff.

James might not have the shot Jackson has, but White does have some things Steven did not, and Pop and the staff will bring that out in White....especially since his development in Cincy and under Higgins was not grade A.

I have not given up on White....if anything I am pumped.

Has anyone seen a better dunk in their lifetime: James White doing an inbetween the leg slam dunk from the free throw line! Amazing

1st I also have high hopes for White.

I take exception and would like to point out that White is anything but under-instructed, although it was not grade A.

Huggins earned the Ray Meyer Award as the Conference USA Coach of the Year a record three times (1997-98, 1998-99, and 1999-2000), and was a unanimous choice for C-USA Coach of the Decade. He was selected national coach of the year by ESPN.com in 2001-02.

Huggins, job, was to produce a winner, he did so on rather constant basis. with a lot of head-cases, people that did not graduate, had off-court problems, etc. compare Huggins to Jerry Tarkanian's successful, yet controversial at UNLV, and I'm sure Huggins will do well at K State

I think Pop and the Spurs can do for White what they did for SJ, however The question remains do they have the time? It appears Holt, let loose with the $

[duncan2k5]

i think he has to play SOME minutes, and at least dunk once to be in the dunk contest. im basing this on every dunk contest in NBA history. i may be wrong tho

[SequSpur]

White > Bonner

[TDMVPDPOY]

if other teams can play their rookies, i see no reason why we cant afford to......at best white can be better than IGUODOLA

[ChumpDumper]

Teams that suck and/or got lottery picks are playing their rookies.

Are we either of those?

[polandprzem]

Teams that suck and/or got lottery picks are playing their rookies.

Are we either of those?

Are you talking about Atlanta or San Antonio?

[dimsah]

If Melvin Sanders was getting a few scrub minutes last season, then I see no reason why either Butler or White can't.

One luxury though is the fact that Oberto and Elson are playing better than we expected so there is no reason to rush Butler along.

[ChumpDumper]

Melvin got mintues because of injuries.

If you are wishing our vets to be injured, well ok.

If you are saying you want White to play in 16 games and not play in the playoffs and not come back next season, ok to that too.

It's November, give the guy a chance to learn a play or two.

[TDMVPDPOY]

pop wasting talent on the bench.....i dont want to see that he pulled on beno last season playin some veteran ahead of him.....white has alot of potential to succeed with his god given talents

[ChumpDumper]

Beno benched himself by not taking care of the ball.

This guy got beat out by Rawle Marshall, people. Catch a clue. He needs time.

[TDMVPDPOY]

is he that bad that he cant even be our mascot?

[ChumpDumper]

No, but he can't get of the IR for awhile.

[Mr. Body]

James White hasn't been through the time equivalent of a Spurs' training camp yet. Give it time.