Ludden: Spurs' Popovich says league exec crossed line with Bowen

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

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TO: SNLA
FR: SNLAC

SUBJ: KNOW THY ENEMY

SOLDIERS, THESE ARE YOUR ENEMIES. THEY MUST BE STOPPED.

STERN, DAVID JOEL
COMMISSIONER
HEAD GLOBALIST CONSPIRATOR
NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION



JACKSON, STUART WAYNE
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS
SUCK UP TO OVERRATED SHOOTING GUARDS
NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION



THOMAS, ISIAH LORD III
PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS
HEAD COACH
MOST LIKELY PUBLIC FIGURE TO BE ON THE "DOWN LOW"
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NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION



FRANCIS, STEVE D'SHAWN
"PROFESSIONAL" BASKETBALL PLAYER
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[T Park]

AD-VER-TIS-ING....................look it up.
$$$$$$$$$$$$ makes the world go round............look it up

spurs+championships=low ratings..........look that up. asswipe.

If that was true special ed, then why did the league "allow" them to win twice more after 99.

Go away.

Please Pop, say this to Manu:

" 'You be Manu. You're the best (expletive) crunch player in this league. You will NOT change the way you go to the (expletive) basket!.'"

Im sure pop has said that.

At one time last night during a time out he looked at Manu and others and told them to drive to the " ing basket"

[The Truth #6]

I don't think its a big deal. They're not changing the rules just to hurt Bowen's game, they're telling to stay within the rules.

Bowen is a master of pushing the limits and looking for every angle he can to stop his man. That's all a part of playing lock down defense. Playing defense is not about being nice. It's about being rough at times, crafty, playing head games, holding when the ref isn't looking, flopping, moving your feet, blocking someone's shot from the weakside, never taking a break on any play. I think people need to look at the total picture and accept that Bruce finds the line often and occasionally goes beyond it, even if it is rarely.

Besides, he's getting notoriety for his defense. He'll probaby finally win DPOY this year.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Jackson has to be dealt with in owner's meetings and league coach meetings, because he is inconsistent, arbitrary and capricious in his disciplinary moves.

that, Stu didn't feel compelled to use the appropriate channels, instead going behind their backs and to try to intimidate Bowen.

[SequSpur]

Telling Ludden is bullcrap.

I want to see him on the frontlines of ESPN going Denny Green on their asses.

Then I will give him a chest bump.

[polandprzem]

I was glad that Pop said what he did, but I thought it was far too little and way too late. I get irritated with Pop when he is so busy being "cool" that he underreacts when any player other than Tim has an issue with refs, injuries, or other players. He gets upset during a game, but then acts all cool afterword. I thought he should have stood up for Bruce last year when he was getting all the badmouthing from Ray Allen et.al.,, because Jackson said something about it last year in public, regarding Bruce.

I think that the problem here is Jackson. Isaiah Thomas is a really easy guy to have no respect for, ( because he deserves none), but he has clout in the league (more than he should). Pop, or Holt (or both) need to realize that the league has to be managed just like the team has t be managed. Jackson has to be dealt with in owner's meetings and league coach meetings, because he is inconsistent, arbitrary and capricious in his disciplinary moves. The refs pay attention to Jackson, and that will hurt Bowen and the Spurs.

I think nobody gave a damn what Ray had to say.

And Pop doesn't need to talk about that kind of stuff on press conferences.

[SequSpur]

I think nobody gave a damn what Ray had to say.

And Pop doesn't need to talk about that kind of stuff on press conferences.

yes he does.

[polandprzem]

yes he does.

why?

[greens]

Greenleo brings up a point I never thought of. Besides guarding the best player every night, he has also played almost 400 consecutive games at about 35 minutes per.

Exactly! The precentages do not add up. I mean only TWO incidents have occured in the span of 400 consecutive games...Pop was right in mentioning the statistics...although he should have also mentioned that Bruce holds the record for being the Spur with most consecutive games. I think that would have helped the article a lot better. I don't know how anyone can call Bruce dirty after looking at all the statistics. It makes no sense. If Bruce was truly as dirty as he supposedly is, he'd have a HUGE number of incidents by now...But TWO add up to nothing at all...

I'm just glad that BOTH Pop and Timmy stood up for Bruce. I think it shows that this team has each other's backs no matter what...That's one of the things I love about the Spurs...

[LilMissSPURfect]

Please Pop, say this to Manu:

" 'You be Manu. You're the best (expletive) crunch player in this league. You will NOT change the way you go to the (expletive) basket!.'"

[LilMissSPURfect]

exactly what i had expressed....why should bruce change his defensive schemes.....why isn't the offensive player asked to change their games? and why didn't bruce do his magic on dirk last spring?

[TDMVPDPOY]

CIA POP is sendin these guyz in if he gets a fine

[spurtime]

Ignoring the issue as to whether Bruce is purposefully injuring other players, Stu Jackson should never break established protocol and personally contact a player, ignoring team officials, especially when no action is being taken against him. Either suspend him/fine him and allow him to take the issue up on appeal, where you will have an opportunity to question him, or don't suspend him/fine him and leave him alone.

This was just incredibly unprofessional.

[lefty]

Please Pop, say this to Manu:

" 'You be Manu. You're the best (expletive) crunch player in this league. You will NOT change the way you go to the (expletive) basket!.'"

True ; Manu is at his best when he doesn't think too much ; lately, he has been thinking too much

[td4mvp21]

Tell them, Pop. Although I think Bowen could defend otherwise, there is nothing wrong with what he's doing. The league office is trying to eliminate defense. They want players to be able to score at will.

[Obstructed_View]

Ignoring the issue as to whether Bruce is purposefully injuring other players, Stu Jackson should never break established protocol and personally contact a player, ignoring team officials, especially when no action is being taken against him. Either suspend him/fine him and allow him to take the issue up on appeal, where you will have an opportunity to question him, or don't suspend him/fine him and leave him alone.

This was just incredibly unprofessional.

Exactly. There's no way to make an actual case with actual evidence against Bowen, so they will just try to intimidate him into changing his game because, oh by the way, nobody wants to see defense, especially from a small market team.

[Bruno]

Pop, let's see now how big will be the fine.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how is this fine goin to be? is it 25k per interview or fine on each criticism?

[rwb]

Somehow I can't imagine Bruce actively thinking to himself every time the player he's defending jumps into the air, "Ooo...I gotta get my foot under him so he sprains his ankle." Bruce is the best defender out there and a sincerely good guy. Basketball is a physical game and unless someone goes out on the floor with the agenda of hurting other players by clubbing or punching them, injuries will happen because they just happen. It's like blaming the wall that you ran into for hurting you. But calling a player at home like that...if there isn't some kind of rule against it, there should be. Completely wrong.

[Bruno]

how is this fine goin to be? is it 25k per interview or fine on each criticism?

We will see.
JVG has had a $25k fine but it wasn't the first time he criticizes refs/league...
It's the first time for Pop but what he has said is more serious than what JVG has said.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Good on Pop for defending his player, but I'm gonna disagree with all of you here and say that I think Bowen does step under shooters after they are up in the air and he should stop doing it. He shouldn't change his D, but he should NOT step under shooters and he does it all the time. It's very dangerous and has already led to two serious sprains (one incident is isolated, two forms a trend and three or more a pattern).

I think the reason why he does it is much like the pretend punch to the balls that some guys will give you when you go up for a jump shot - instinctively, you are put off.

Go back and re-watch some games over the last 3 years... Bruce can do whatever he likes, but stepping under shooters, which I have seen him do (in the Carter incident he did it quite clearly), is bad karma.

[Spursfury]

The league should have suspended Isaah Thomas, and fined him up the ass. If they suspended maybe then his team would when some damm games.There worthless I can see why he was crying not because of Bruce it's because his team sucks and he has to coach them the rest of the season...

[NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER]

Good on Pop for defending his player, but I'm gonna disagree with all of you here and say that I think Bowen does step under shooters after they are up in the air and he should stop doing it. He shouldn't change his D, but he should NOT step under shooters and he does it all the time. It's very dangerous and has already led to two serious sprains (one incident is isolated, two forms a trend and three or more a pattern).

I think the reason why he does it is much like the pretend punch to the balls that some guys will give you when you go up for a jump shot - instinctively, you are put off.

Go back and re-watch some games over the last 3 years... Bruce can do whatever he likes, but stepping under shooters, which I have seen him do (in the Carter incident he did it quite clearly), is bad karma.

TIME TO COURT MARTIAL THE COMMIE.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

TIME TO COURT MARTIAL THE COMMIE.

Read my sig, mofo. I call em as I see em.

I love Bruce Bowen's game, and his character, and without him we'd have two fewer rings. I think most of what he does is above board. I'm not saying that Bruce steps under players with the intention of spraining their ankles, but he does step up under players, especially shooters.

Look at the Carter incident - he definitely steps up under him. And I've seen him do that many times. He should D-up as usual but not step up under shooters after they've taken off. That goes for all ballas who don't want to put their opponents out of the game with an ankle sprain.

Oh, and I agree that the way the NBA has handled this has been terrible. I just think Bruce should be a little more careful.

[spurtime]

No one knows for sure, but I think some of the undercutting incidents are intentional and some are just a function of Bruce being within the space of his defensive assignment. I think the Vince Carter and Ray Allen incidents were intentional and meant as statements to those guys. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Pop approved of the tactic against VC since he seemed to throw him out there as a ringer after VC had torched us for 3 quarters...and it worked.

Bottom line...Whether or not it's intentional I think the league has a difficult case to prove up, and I will defend Bruce whether or not he's dirty because he is a member of my clan.