The Draft

[Guru of Nothing]

Opposing a draft is to oppose the concept of checks and balances.

Random thought ... what is more patriotic, defending your country for money, or paying someone to defend your country?

[Spurminator]

Would you coerce patriotism?

[Guru of Nothing]

As I proofread my previous post, I was struck by the visual similarities between "patriotic" and "pathetic"

Must be all that American beer I've been drinking.

[Guru of Nothing]

Would you coerce patriotism?

Short answer = no.
Long answer = ... no
Thoughtful answer = don't no

[PixelPusher]

Would you coerce patriotism?

would waterboarding be involved?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If Dumbya's daughters were eligible no way he starts this ed up war. But I'm sure he would've found some cushy reason why his daughters were not eligible for the draft such as, "They can do more good here at home", etc. Just like so many neocons and their pathetic reasons why they suppor the war are not willing to enlist.

Let's look at it another way... even most of you left wingers are in support of us being in Afghanistan.

So, using your logic about if you support us fighting 'over there', then you must enlist...

Fine, let's rotate many of our troops currently in Afghanistan to Iraq, and all you folks who support Afghanistan but oppose us being in Iraq now have to sign up.

Still have the same logic about this all?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

rofl
rich urban white kids being forced to combat half way around the world?

its an oxymoron, no ing way in the entire remaining history of this country will that ever happen
and if it did happen by some miracle of god, then it would mean the end of usa wars and those kids would still never face combat

[Bob Lanier]

us being

us fighting

us being

our troops

The picture I'm getting here is that you're simultaneously inAfghanistan, in Iraq, and in command of some sizeable soldiery. Please confirm?

The obvious response from "you left wingers" is that there is an ethical difference between retaliatory action (i.e., conquering Afghanistan for its purported harboring of bin Laden) and aggressive action (i.e., conquering Iraq for looking at you funny).

[Nbadan]

Lawrence ODonnell takes the debate to Scarborough Country

[clambake]

No surprises about Afghanistan. Clear mission. Fully supported. Reason for action. Logic. Harbouring Bin Ladin. Destroy the landlords and forbid their return.

Ethical difference is correct. Iraq was an aggressive approach because we lack ethical leadership. Raw power is their only possesion. So much effort was put into fooling the people and manipulating our beliefs.