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Whats to debate?
I told you 1 point per shot is what Pop wants defensively, against the league's best perimeter scorers, from Bruce.
Which stat do you think Pop cares about most?
Blocked Shots or Opponents FG% allowed?
come on..... maybe a nickel sack..... or a J??????
Whats to debate?
I told you 1 point per shot is what Pop wants defensively, against the league's best perimeter scorers, from Bruce.
Which stat do you think Pop cares about most?
Blocked Shots or Opponents FG% allowed?
maybe she can buy tlongII a new blazers jersey with it. I'll throw a little some some her way for my boy tlongII
elborracho07 don't do it man. He's crazy you don't even know.
What doesn't show up in those numbers is that Bowen rests when the best player on the other team rests. Of course he's going to have a low +/-.
If you want to see what would happen without Bowen, look up the record of the Spurs without him.
Bruce spent most of the night guarding Heinrich not Nocioni. Artest was killing him. Morrison shot over 50% and McGrady had his way with him as well. Lebron, actually Lebron, I'll give him a break on because NOBODY can guard Lebron. But LeBron hardly noticed he was guarding him.
I am not saying I agree he is overrated, but I would say his impact this year so far, has been pretty minimal. And I would say his offensive shortcomings outweigh's his defense...AT THIS POINT IN THE SEASON. Its is only the 10th game of the year, so things can change. But so far, he hasn't had a big impact on any of the games.
Man some of you have selective memory. Yeah McGrady owned Bruce for the 1st half, but what happened in the 2nd?
It's true that Bruce cross-switches when he has to, I mean he can guard 1,2,3's and in a pinch, outside shooting 4's like Dirk, but yeah you're right his offensive shortcomings mean that just based on that alone, he is ineffective and the Spurs would do better to start a more offensive player like say, Mike Fin or even, Brent Barry. Nope because neither of those guys have a prayers chance in of stopping guys like Kobe or TMac or Lebron. How many ALL-NBA D teams does a guy have to make to show fans and media that he is the best perimeter stopper in the game?
Oh and as for Morrison shooting a high percentage. It's not even that that is the story, the real story is that by him shooting that many shots, it could make it easier for the Spurs to play better team D. Anytime Bruce can goad a player into playing 1 against 5, it normally bodes well for SA. Since the Spurs have won 80% of the games they've played...What's there to complain about?
Last edited by Man In Black; 11-20-2006 at 08:02 PM.
I never said he wasn't the best. But this year, so far, has he been a factor? No I don't think so. You rattle off Kobe or TMac or Lebron...Well you know what..he hasn't played Kobe this year. Lebron wasn't bothered by him...and at the very least, you have to say McGrady had a solid game against him.
did you noticed that equals to a 50% of the shots were made?
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did you noticed that equals to a 50% of the shots were made?
lebron has several pounds on the overrated james which james whinned to the refs and did not even get a t
bowen usually does a great job on the overrated little james
james has got him now like 2 times
bowen owns the punk
james lit him up first game then bowen say what he could do and then shut his ass down
lets look this more preciselly:
josh Howard 7/12 2's and 1/4 3's
LeBron James 14/24 2's and 1/2 3's
Mo Peterson 5/7 2's and 2/4 3's
Quentin Richardson 4/7 2's and 1/2 3's
Shawn Marion 4/8 2's and 0/5 3's
Quentin Richardson 9/17 2's and 0/1 3's
Tracy McGrady 10/18 2's and 4/7 3's
Adam Morrison 12/20 2's and 2/3 3's
Andres Nocioni 1/8 2's and 0/2 3's
Ron Artest 9/16 2's and 1/4 3's
this equal to:
75/137 (.547) on 2's effeciency!!!!!
and
12/34 (.352) on 3's efficiency!!!!!
IMAGINE THAT!!!
Let's pretend we are Spurfans and repeat our nonpoint endlessly!
I seriously don't give a about the stats on Bowen. The reputation as the "best ing defender in the league" is enough for teams to themselves. His assignment molds himself into beating bowen not the team. Now if you combine that with him being in top form on D, your chances of winning skyrockets. I'll take that everytime.
Bottom Line. SPURS 8-2. PERIOD.
Let's see here, Zach Randolph a 4, scored 19 in the 1st half against Duncan, Oberto & Horry.
Against Bowen in the 3rd? 2 Measly Points.
Yeah overrated. A point per shot is selfish and not very good team ball, but if you knew the real stats the Spurs cared about, then you wouldn't have to be told, would you?
4 points on 2-7 shooting in the 2nd half.
Reminds me of the Chris Bosh game last year.
Watching League Pass, I was stuck with the Blazers broadcast.
Their team indicated that the difference in the game was Pop putting Bruce on Zach. They said Bruce's D was such that the Blazers didn't know how to pass the ball into Zach with Bruce around and that because Zach was forced to create a shot, he was made much less effective.
That wasn't Bowen! That was Rasho!
@ Shoogar
:LMAO at the morons in this thread, that DARE, think Bowen is not a good defender.
RU KIDDING ME!?!??
We'll see how much coverage that part of this game gets in the game recap. Granted, Manu is deservedly the story, but Bowen on Randolph is a close second.
Bowen's D in the third, along with his 2 three point baskets, IMO, is what turned the game around.
Bowen's defense is not overrated. He still is a great defender.
Zero to none.We'll see how much coverage that part of this game gets in the game recap
As it always does.
Bowen's defense on McGrady was great. He was unstoppable in the first half and Bowen and the Spurs ramped it up another notch. It's sad that Spurs fans (or those who claim to be) of all people would fail to recognize good defensive basketball when they see it.
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