Dwyane Wade vs NO/OKC Hornets

[themvp]

What happened to Heat fans who proclaimed Udonis Haslem is one of the most underrated players in the league? How about Heat fans who argued that Alonzo Mourning not only should have been the DPOY last year but an all-star? How about Antoine Walker delivering in the post season to all of a sudden being a huge part of the core of the championship team? Gary Payton is still a future hall of famer.

Damon Jones wasn't hitting 3pointers "CONSISTENTLY" last year. Drew Gooden was even more erratic. Larry Hughes was injured for most of the season last year.

Dwyane Wade is one of the best players in the league. I would not be so naive to say he isn't. But, single-handedly keeping your team in a game against a team that wasn't even a playoff team the previous season and is ALSO missing it's no. 1 post presence in David West does not make Dwyane Wade the MVP of the league ... ESPECIALLY WHEN HIS TEAM LOSES. And, your point in the first post in this thread wasn't that Wade is a leader and can play without Shaq. It was to infer he is an MVP player. And, without Shaq, don't the Heat have a losing record over the last two years?

Without Shaq, Dwyane Wade would still be a great player. But, his team's success would be something like the Wizards with Gilbert Arenas or perhaps like the Nuggets with Carmelo. The Heat without Shaq would be a low seed playoff team that would get lucky to get out of the first round.

That makes Dwyane Wade a great player, but not an MVP.

Great post man!

[#1 stunna]

"To learn to succeed, you must first learn to fail."-Michael Jordan ya digg

[Bob Lanier]

How about Heat fans who argued that Alonzo Mourning not only should have been the DPOY last year but an all-star?

I've never seen a Heat fan argue that, but I did, if only because I thought he was playing better than Ben Wallace - last year.

Drew Gooden was even more erratic.

PaceMonster's post stated that James has Gooden to rebound, which is true. Gooden is one of the best and most consistent rebounders in the NBA, and without him and Ilgauskas - as porous as they are defensively - sucking in boards, James would likely have provided nothing more than Pierce, Arenas, or Wade did.

[jman3000]

tell you how Wade is not a(n) MVP? here's how: Heat 86 Hornets 101

best ponky post ever.

[Burn531]

"To learn to succeed, you must first learn to fail."-Michael Jordan ya digg

The Heat have already failed(05' ECF) and succeeded(Finals 06').

So no I don't digg.

[PaceMonster]

Hornets are a really good team this year....so what if they did not make it to the playoffs last year....the Jazz didnt make the playoffs last year....does that make them a bad team at 9-1.....come with a better arguement JoeJam or whoever said the Hornets werent good because they didnt make the playoffs last year

[The-Wizz]

ill tell u why even tho u jsut answered it yourself, "hes keeping them in the game by himself" hence the self if he made his team playt better then he would be